Jan 25, 2024

Press Briefing by Press Secretary Karine Jean-Pierre and John Kirby 1/24/24

Press Briefing by Press Secretary Karine Jean-Pierre and John Kirby 1/24/24
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Karine Jean-Pierre (00:03):

All right. Hello. Good afternoon. Hi. Hi, [inaudible 00:00:09] Oh, that’s right. We are a bit early. Got nine more minutes before it’s afternoon. Okay. Today, President Biden announced that a record-breaking 21.3 million Americans have enrolled in healthcare coverage through the Affordable Care Act. It’s another major milestone in his work to expand access to affordable healthcare and lower costs for families. Not only do more Americans have healthcare coverage than ever before, but thanks to the Inflation Reduction Act, which every single Republican in Congress voted against, this president has capped the cost of insulin to 35 bucks for seniors, allowed Medicare to negotiate lower prescription drug prices for the first time ever, and has saved millions of Americans an average of 800 bucks per month on their healthcare insurance.

(01:04)
The American people have made it clear they don’t want the Affordable Care Act weakened and or repealed. They want it strengthened and protected. President Biden will continue to fight to bring down healthcare costs and prescription drug costs as well. With that, we have the admiral in the briefing room today who’s going to give us a little bit of an update on travel to Africa, and also an update on the latest on Middle East. Okay. Admiral.

John Kirby (01:32):

Afternoon, everybody. So yeah, I do have a little bit of a grab-

Speaker 1 (01:36):

Good morning.

John Kirby (01:40):

I wasn’t paying attention, clearly. I do have a little bit of a grab bag of stuff to get through, and I’ll promise I’ll try to do as quickly as I can. Yesterday, as I think you’re all aware, in direct response to a series of escalatory attacks against u.s and coalition personnel in Iraq and Syria, including, of course at al-Assad Airbase over the weekend, the United States military conducted strikes on facilities that were used by the Iran backed Kata’ib Hizballah hit militia group, as well as other affiliated groups in Iraq. Initial reports that were getting indicate that we had effective results on all three targets. Two headquarters buildings and an intelligence facility were destroyed. I want to emphasize that these actions were taken in self-defense, following, of course, the attack on our forces in Iraq, and then certainly in consistent with international and domestic law. As the president has said, we’re not going to hesitate to take necessary action to protect our troops and our facilities, and we’ll stay vigilant going forward, of course.

(02:38)
Separately, I’m also sure that you saw yesterday a joint statement from 24 countries expressing support for the action that the United States and our United Kingdom armed forces, with support from Australia, Bahrain, Canada, Netherlands took against the Houthi on Monday. I think it’s notable that more and more countries now wanted to show that they condemn Houthi’s indiscriminate and unlawful attacks on international commerce, and that they support the actions that we and our partners are taking. Now, as you may have seen, several cabinet and senior administration leaders are engaging with countries across the African continent this week, building on our commitment to accelerate US-Africa partnership opportunities following the Africa leader summit last year. And just run through quickly, if I can, just to kind of give you a sense of the scope. Secretary Blinken, of course, is traveling to Cabo Verde, the Ivory Coast, Nigeria, and Angola this week. US Ambassador to the United Nations, Linda Thomas-Greenfield is visiting Guinea-Bissau Liberia, Sierra Leone.

(03:38)
US International Development Finance Corporation CEO Scott Nathan led a presidential delegation to attend the inauguration of the DRC President, Tshisekedi, over the weekend. Apologize for that. EPA Administrator Reagan is in Mozambique in Ghana sharing solutions and building partnerships on a range of environmental priorities. USAID Deputy Administrator Coleman is traveling to Maputo and the central and northern regions of Mozambique. And the CDC’s Principal Deputy Director Nirav Shah is visiting the Sahel in West Africa to discuss our health partnerships. And of course, Jake Sullivan, our National Security Advisor, spoke with his Kenyan counterpart earlier this week. That’s a lot of activity just this week across the continent. And it’s just a start of what we think will be a very busy 2024. We’re looking forward to deepening those relationships and improving on that coordination. Now, before I get to your questions, I do want to correct something that I said yesterday.

(04:41)
I got asked about another meeting with our Mexican partners and whether there was something on the schedule, and I said that I wasn’t aware that there was anything on the schedule, but if I had done my homework, I would’ve been able to answer that question better. At the conclusion of the last US-Mexico ministerial and migration on the 19th of January, we did say in our readout that we would continue our strong cooperation on migration on the margins of the Trilateral Fentanyl Committee meeting in Mexico City in early February. And so we’ll have more to share soon on that, but what was incorrect. There was actually something on the schedule, and it’s in early February.

Speaker 2 (05:16):

One person missing from your travel announcement with Africa, President Biden. Is he going to go to Africa this year? He has said he’s going to go.

John Kirby (05:23):

I have nothing to announce with respect to presidential travel.

Speaker 2 (05:25):

Okay. And one more thing. Also, the Russians say that Ukraine shut down a military transport craft carrying Ukrainian POWs. Does the US have any information on that?

John Kirby (05:35):

No, we don’t. We’ve seen the reports, but we’re not in a position to confirm them. We’re obviously doing the best we can to try to get more clarity and more information on it, but I don’t have anything more for you than I know.

Karine Jean-Pierre (05:44):

April in the back.

Speaker 3 (05:46):

John, could you give us information as to what the roadblocks were last year for the president not to go, and what some of the roadblocks could be this year, and what is considered an intense year why he would not go? What are some of the roadblocks?

John Kirby (06:00):

I wouldn’t describe him as roadblocks, April. As you know, there was a lot of international travel last year, and it was really a scheduling challenge. We will see what this year holds. The president is still very, very committed to making sure we are expanding and deepening our relationships on the continent. And as I just laid out in the opening statement, that’s just this week, there’s an awful lot going on.

Speaker 3 (06:25):

But as you said, they’re scheduling challenges. There are challenges, but the president made a commitment that he would go, as well as his cabinet secretaries. The vice president went last year. Cabinet secretaries are still going. What is the importance of going to Africa for him in this moment still?

John Kirby (06:45):

He’s still committed to making sure that we’re all in on Africa. And again, I don’t have travel to speak to now, April, but I can assure you that the president’s very, very committed to deepening the relationships we have on the continent and to furthering all the lines of effort that we agreed to in the Africa Leaders Summit. That’s why so many administration officials are visiting right now.

Speaker 3 (07:11):

So what are the possibilities that have come out of all the administration officials going and not him thus far?

John Kirby (07:16):

There’s an awful lot of good work being done here, and I just kind of laid out for you briefly who’s going, and why they’re going and what they’re trying to get done. And all of these visits, all of these discussions very much build on the Africa Leaders Summit and the things that we committed to doing economically, diplomatically, socially, and even in some ways from a security perspective. So I think we’ll have good, I think a sense once these trips are over and these principles come back on, what kind of progress they made, and we’ll just continue to work at it.

Karine Jean-Pierre (07:47):

Okay.

Speaker 4 (07:49):

The UN Refugee Agency in Gaza says there’s been a mass casualty event at one of its shelters in Gaza and say it was struck by two tank shells. There are hundreds of people who are sheltering, displaced people who are sheltering here. Does the White House have a comment on this? Does this reflect a lower intensity phase of fighting in Gaza?

John Kirby (08:08):

I don’t have any information on this particular event the way you described it. I don’t have any background on it to share. I’m just learning about it myself. So look, why don’t we… When the briefing’s over, we’ll see if we can comment on it one way or the other. I don’t know. That aside, with the caveat that I don’t know anything about this particular event that you’re describing, the Israelis have taken steps to transition their operations. They have removed a division of troops. That’s a lot of troops. That’s thousands of troops. And they are pursuing on the ground, more targeted operations particularly against the leadership. They are relying less on airstrikes. Low-intensity operations doesn’t mean no intensity operations. And even in a low-intensity environment, again, I won’t speak for them, but from our own experience, even in low-intensity operations, you’re still going to be in combat. There is still going to be fighting, and there’s still going to be casualties. So again, I would just… As we think about this going forward, we shouldn’t expect that as they transition to low-intensity operations, that there’s not still going to be some violence.

Speaker 5 (09:31):

John, just continuing on the Gaza question yesterday, the President’s speech was interrupted by multiple protesters calling for a ceasefire. Now, we’ve seen these kind of interruptions at various events, but we’re also seeing increased polling among the American public that is clamoring for a ceasefire. Is the president…. Is his perspective on this changing at all, given the daily mounting casualty toll? Is he starting to rethink whether it might be prudent to ask for a halt in the fighting and beyond just the pause?

John Kirby (10:12):

I would remind that since the very early going in this conflict, we have been urging our Israeli counterparts to be careful and precise. We have talked about the civilian casualties and how we don’t want to see anymore. We have urged them to take different actions, and they have responded to that advice and counsel. He understands that there are strong feelings here on all sides, as you would expect. He’s been doing this a long, long time. He also believes it’s really important that Israel have the right and the ability to continue to defend themselves against what is clearly still a viable threat from Hamas. But that doesn’t mean that we’re going to stop, again, urging a stronger focus by our Israeli counterparts on minimizing civilian casualties and on getting aid in. And you talked about a pause.

(11:10)
I would also remind that from the very beginning, or nearly the very beginning, this administration under President Biden’s leadership has argued and tried to push for humanitarian pauses in the fighting so that hostages could get out and aid could get in, and we are still doing that. Brett McGurk is in the region as we speak. In fact, he’s in Doha today having discussions with our Qatari counterparts about the possibilities of another hostage deal.

Speaker 4 (11:38):

Can I just follow up on, sorry, on that. So the president has been pushing for pauses. You’ve been talking here from the podium about pauses. The Israelis today have, again, rolled out a Gaza ceasefire. They’ve said that there were pauses for humanitarian purposes. Those have been breached by Hamas. We’re hearing out of the region, that there’s movement

Speaker 6 (12:00):

Towards something like a one-month pause. Can you give us an update on that? And then whether there’s any additional language that would come as part of that, about a further, like a more permanent solution?

John Kirby (12:17):

Yeah, I don’t have any additional context to provide today. We talked about this a little bit yesterday. As I said, Brett’s in the region right now, and while he’s having lots of conversations on lots of issues, this is certainly top of his agenda and he’s in Doha, as I said today. I don’t want to get ahead of those discussions except to repeat what I said yesterday, which is these are very sober and serious discussions we’re having, and we certainly want to see another humanitarian pause put in place so that we can again, get aid in and get people out. But how close we are to that and what the parameters of that are going to look like, how many days, that’s all part of the discussions we’re having right now, and it would not be appropriate for me to try to speculate on where that’s going right now.

Karine Jean-Pierre (13:01):

We sadly don’t have too much time. Yes.

Speaker 7 (13:03):

Thank you, Admiral. Sergey Lavrov, he’s calling for an emergency UN council meeting over the plane crash. Just want to get your reaction to that, and if there could be any truth to the Russian version of events, if the US believes there were Ukrainian prisoners of war on that plane?

John Kirby (13:17):

Again, we just don’t have enough information to comment on this plane crash. We’ve seen the reports of it. We’re trying to get more information, but it would be imprudent for me to speculate beyond that. I just don’t know the veracity of these reports. The Ukrainians are claiming one thing, the Russians are claiming another, and we just don’t know enough to comment on it.

Speaker 7 (13:33):

And Iran’s foreign minister told ABC News yesterday that he believes the risks of a wider war in the region is going up. He’s blaming the US for it. Says that if the US stopped providing aid, then Netanyahu wouldn’t survive for 10 minutes. Wanted to get your reaction on that.

John Kirby (13:46):

If the Iranian government is concerned about escalation, then the best thing they could do would be to cut off the support that they give to groups like Hamas and Hezbollah and these Iran-backed militia groups in Iraq and Syria. We don’t want to see the conflict escalate. We don’t want to see some broader war. We’re not looking for a war or a conflict with anybody. We’re actually trying to de-escalate. And if the Iranians are serious about that and they want to de-escalate, well, we would welcome them stopping this support.

Karine Jean-Pierre (14:13):

Go ahead.

Speaker 8 (14:14):

John, could you give an assessment on what the White House’s assessment is of the hunger crisis in Gaza? From several aid groups, that things could not be worse as the words that have been used, but what’s the White House’s take on that right now?

John Kirby (14:30):

We understand that the humanitarian situation in Gaza is dire, and specifically when it comes to food insecurity, we’re mindful of that, which is why, again, you got Brett in the region right now. We’re trying to do everything we can to get additional humanitarian pauses in place so that aid can get in. It is obviously designed to help us get hostages out, of course, but when you have a low in the fighting, man, you got to take advantage of that and you got to get more trucks in. And so we’re very much focused on this, and that’s why food is such a principle product of the humanitarian assistance that’s going in. We’re mindful though. We’re very mindful that a lot of people are hungry.

Speaker 8 (15:07):

Has the White House seen reports that there are Palestinians who are trying to make flour out of animal feed at this point? It is that level.

John Kirby (15:16):

We’re mindful of the dire circumstances that some people are living in in terms of food insecurity there in Gaza. Absolutely. Now, one of the things we talked about, I don’t know, a week or so ago, was we had worked with the Israeli’s to open up the Ashdod port for the direct delivery into Gaza of flour, specifically because we know how important flour and the ability to create meals from that is to the people of Gaza. So we’re very focused on this.

Karine Jean-Pierre (15:41):

Go ahead Ellen.

Ellen (15:43):

Okay, thank you so much. Admiral, can you comment on what happened in the Red Sea this morning? Two mass vessels had to turn back after explosions happened. So were these explosions due to strikes by the Houthis, and if so, does it mean that the campaign against the Houthis still is not working?

John Kirby (16:01):

What I can tell you and what I do know what happened today was that there were three Houthi missiles fired at two merchant vessels and in the Southern Red Sea. One missile missed by something like 200 kilometers. The other two were shot down by a US Navy destroyer. That’s what I know. It’s obviously underscores that the Houthis still intend to conduct these attacks, which means we’re obviously still going to have to do what we have have to do to protect that shipping.

Karine Jean-Pierre (16:33):

Go ahead.

Weija (16:33):

Thank you. Following on the humanitarian crisis. President Biden recently said that there were no sticking points when it came to the border deal, which of course impacts the supplemental, but there does appear to be disagreement over an aid package for Palestinian civilians. So would the President support any measure that did not include aid for Palestinian civilians?

John Kirby (16:57):

I won’t negotiate here from the podium. That wouldn’t be appropriate. We are we believe making good progress here on the Senate side in a bipartisan way to try to get this supplemental funding passed and in place. We understand that that certainly includes lots of different moving pieces, but it would be irresponsible for me to go into much detail here.

Speaker 9 (17:17):

Thank you. Admiral, I want to ask on behalf of my colleagues in Argentina. There are reports in local media down there that they’re getting ready to finalize the purchase of the F-16s that was approved in the US last year. I’m wondering what your read is on that and what you can say about the context of potentially Argentina moving closer to Washington, maybe further from Beijing?

John Kirby (17:36):

I don’t have anything on the F-16s. Let me take that question and get back to you rather than try to pontificate from here. But obviously we value the bilateral relationship with Argentina and certainly want to do what we can to improve it, grow it, deepen it. But let me get back to you on the F-16s.

Karine Jean-Pierre (17:53):

Last question, sir.

Speaker 10 (17:54):

Thank you. Two questions on Iran proxies. Can you confirm reports that Iran has provided a Mohajer-6 combat drone to the Sudanese Army? And secondly, why is there a double standard when it comes to the administration dealing with the Iranian proxies in the region? On one hand, you respect Israel annihilating Hamas, but only launches operation which seeks degrading Houthis and the Iranian backed groups in Iraq.

John Kirby (18:22):

I’m not sure I understand the premise of the second question. There’s no double standard here. We’re acting in self-defense in both cases. Strikes against the Iran-backed groups in Iraq yesterday were designed to prevent them from continuing to attack our troops. Self-defense. And the same thing goes for the attacks against the Houthis. Whether it’s ashore or knocking their stuff out of the sky when it’s on the way to these ships like we did this morning. It’s about self-defense. There’s no double standard here. And I didn’t understand your first question. What was the-

Speaker 10 (18:53):

Can you confirm reports that Iran has provided Mohajer-6 combat drone to the Sudanese Army?

John Kirby (19:00):

To the Sudanese. I have not seen that report. I’ll take the question and get back to you.

Karine Jean-Pierre (19:03):

Thanks so much.

John Kirby (19:04):

Yeah.

Karine Jean-Pierre (19:04):

Thank you so much. All right, Chris.

Chris (19:07):

I just wanted to recap one thing. You said there was an Africa travel out there. I was just sort of puzzled that there’s nothing more on the President. We’re all waiting for that at the end of that.

Karine Jean-Pierre (19:16):

I know. Well, he did talk about Africa travel, but not as it relates to the President. But there are, as you heard from the Admiral, Cabinet Secretaries obviously being really active with their travel, going to the continent and having really important conversations that needs to be-

Chris (19:34):

Is it still the President’s commitment to go to the continent?

Karine Jean-Pierre (19:36):

Look, it is the President’s commitment to go to the continent. As it relates to a timeline, a date, I don’t have that to share with you at this time, but we wanted to lift up the Cabinet Secretaries. As we have also said, that we would see an influx of Cabinet Secretaries traveling to the continent, which is what you’re seeing. And the President very much wants to go to the continent obviously. One of the reasons why we lifted up in the topper today is because the President wanted to show his commitment to the continent of Africa.

Chris (20:09):

And a personal question. Mike Donilon and Jen O’Malley Dillon-

Karine Jean-Pierre (20:09):

A personal? Oh, personnel.

Chris (20:11):

Personnel. Yeah, personnel.

Karine Jean-Pierre (20:12):

I was like, why now? Why here?

Chris (20:18):

Mike Donilon and Jen O’Malley Dillon are leaving the White House for the campaign. When is their last day here at the White House?

Karine Jean-Pierre (20:21):

Just let me just-

Chris (20:21):

[inaudible 00:20:23] State of the Union?

Karine Jean-Pierre (20:23):

No, I appreciate the question. So a couple of things. You guys saw the President’s statement yesterday last night, announcing that Mike Donilon and Jen O’Malley Dillon will leave the White House in the upcoming weeks to join the reelection campaign. Like the President said, they have served with dedication and purpose as we have delivered on a historic recovery. And he’s thankful to Mike and Jen both for their service in the White House these past three years. Both are trusted advisors to the President, as you all know, who have deep experience and played important roles in the historic successes he has delivered for the American people, ranging from building an economy that works from the bottom up, middle out, not the top down, standing up for our basic freedoms as Americans, or protecting our democracy from unprecedented threats.

(21:09)
And on a personal note, now I will say this personally, I’ve known Jen O’Malley-Dillon for some time, and she has been an excellent colleague. Mike Donilon has become a friend over the last three years, and we are very sad to lose them. As it relates to a timeline, it’s going to be in the upcoming weeks. I just don’t have a timeline to share at this time.

(21:28)
Go ahead, Kelly.

Speaker 11 (21:30):

In terms of the event yesterday where the President obviously indicated that the views of the public are passionate and there are expected protests. Is he now braced for protest at every event where the public is expected?

Karine Jean-Pierre (21:46):

So look, let me just say more broadly. Obviously the President respects people’s right to speak out peacefully, as you just stated in your question to me, Kelly O. As it relates to events and what to expect, that is something for Secret Service. Obviously they deal with that. It’s not something that I can speak to. They look out for that. They deal with that, so they don’t want to get ahead of the Secret Service process. But look, again, the President believes that the Americans have the right to speak out, make their voice heard, as long as they do it peacefully. And so we respect that.

Speaker 11 (22:18):

And of course, the event was about, in large part, a strong view that the administration and the campaign have that reproductive rights, abortion rights are an essential in this campaign season. Do you get a sense that the President is going to find ways to do more to personalize this story of how women are affected by it? He’s cited ways where women are not getting medical care. He talked about how influential it is. Is there some other outreach that he can do?

Karine Jean-Pierre (22:50):

So appreciate the question. Look, I think what you heard, obviously yesterday was a campaign event that the President did with the other principals and the administration, and you heard him speak passionately and fiery, I will say, about the issue on Monday. As you all know, this week would’ve been the 51st, if Roe was still a constitutional law, would’ve been the 51st anniversary of Roe V. Wade. And we talked about, you’ve heard from the President, you’ve heard from the Vice President talk about how devastating the overturning of Roe have been to women across the country. And just the amount of legislation that is restricting that right, restricting that reproductive right that we’ve seen in states.

(23:32)
What I will say as it relates to outreach, there is something that I will share with all of you. On Sunday, the President and the First Lady, spoke to Kate Cox, who was forced to go to court to seek permission for the care she needed for a non-viable pregnancy that threatened her life, that threatened her life. They thanked her for her courage in sharing her story and speaking out about the impact of the extreme abortion ban in Texas. The First Lady invited Kate

Karine Jean-Pierre (24:00):

… Kate to join her as a guest at the State of the Union and Kate accepted. So those are ways that you’re going to hear the president lift up those very personal stories. You saw that yesterday with Amanda, who came and who introduced the president. And it is important. It is important for Americans to hear the harrowing stories that we’re hearing from women of their experiences across the country.

(24:24)
And one last thing I’ll say, and it looks like you have a follow-up and I apologize, is that this is a president and administration, the Biden and Harris administration, is standing with majority of Americans on this, with majority of Americans, and Republican-elected officials are just not.

Speaker 12 (24:40):

I have a follow-up question.

Karine Jean-Pierre (24:40):

I know you had a follow-up.

Speaker 12 (24:41):

Was that a private call or is that something that you recorded? Sometimes we’ve seen those as released later. What’s the status of that?

Karine Jean-Pierre (24:49):

So it definitely was a private car, pardon me, a private call. I cannot speak if it was recorded, but obviously it was a private call that they thought it was really important, the president and the first lady to reach out to Kate. As you all know and all have reported and she’s been on some of the networks here, her story is incredibly powerful, devastating, and it speaks to the moment that we are in now when we talk about women having the right to make these deeply personal decisions about their healthcare, that was taken away by the Supreme Court. And we have Republican officials that continue to talk about, and in Congress, introduce national bans. And so that is not where this president and this vice president stands. And you’re going to continue to hear us speak to that.

(25:35)
Go ahead, Kevin.

Kevin (25:36):

When you talked to the president afterwards, is he frustrated that he wasn’t able to sort of deliver this speech as he intended?

Karine Jean-Pierre (25:42):

I mean, look, the president, from my view, and I think some of your colleagues have written about this, it was a fiery speech. It was a deeply, deeply impactful speech. You heard how the crowd reacted to the speech. It was a speech that I think landed in a way that talked about how this president and his entire administration is going to fight for women. And that is also important.

(26:10)
Look, I said this at the top when I was asked this question, he respects all Americans, their right to speak out and make sure their voices are heard, just as long they do it in a peaceful way. That’s what we want to see. And he’s made clear about where he stands on the issue that we’ve been talking about obviously today with Israel being able to defend themselves, understanding the painful time that a number of communities … And we’re certainly working to be supportive and resource and respect different points of views.

(26:44)
But he’s been very, very clear. And look, we’re going to continue to be clear about that, where we stand, and also obviously respect the peaceful protest that Americans are allowed to do.

Kevin (26:58):

Was there any effort after the speech yesterday to try and engage some of these protestors, to have President Biden talk with them directly?

Karine Jean-Pierre (27:04):

No, I can’t speak to any opportunities to engage with the protesters, but obviously they made their voices very loud and clear, and I’ll just leave it there.

Kevin (27:13):

When is the last time he talked to folks who are advocating for a ceasefire?

Karine Jean-Pierre (27:18):

Well, look, I think he hears from Americans all the time. I think he-

Kevin (27:21):

But in terms of a direct conversation?

Karine Jean-Pierre (27:24):

I mean look, I can’t speak to a direct conversation that he’s had, but he hears from Americans all the time about their different views that they have. And so that is something that the president is very aware of. So don’t have any direct conversations to speak to, but obviously the president is aware of what’s happening and how people feel.

(27:46)
Go ahead.

Speaker 13 (27:46):

So the UAW, President Biden will speak to the UAW today. The UAW has also called for a ceasefire. Does that complicate any effort to get … Does it complicate the relationship between President Biden and the union if these large unions, not just the UAW but others, are also calling for a ceasefire?

Karine Jean-Pierre (28:09):

I’ll say this, as you know in the fall, the president joined UAW workers on the picket line, and he was the first president to ever do that because this is a president who says it all the time. He believe the union built the middle class. He believes that the unions should be able to get the benefits that they deserve for working so hard, for working on behalf of the American people obviously.

(28:39)
But look, and he supported them for their historic fight to get a historic contract. So he believes he has, and we believe he has a very good relationship with unions, not just the UAW. And not just that, he fought very proudly and won the type of major investment needed to ensure that we have a EV future made in America. When we talk about manufacturing, when we talk about bringing manufacturing back to America, and that is something that he has been very proud about.

(29:11)
And so he’s been a union guy for a very long time. He will continue to do that. He’s going to go and speak to UAW. Obviously he has a good relationship with UAW if he’s going to go do that. And he proudly, proudly stood next to union workers, as I stated, in the fall on the picket line, something that no other president has done.

(29:32)
Go ahead. And I’ll come to the back.

Speaker 7 (29:34):

Thanks. Karine. The Boeing CEO is being scrutinized on Capitol Hill today. What has been the president’s reaction to the ongoing safety concerns, and is there any message from the White House to reassure American travelers?

Karine Jean-Pierre (29:45):

Well, look, as I’ve stated, and I’ve stated this before, FAA, one of their number one priorities is to make sure that Americans feel safe flying. And certainly they’ve take actions to show their commitment to make sure that flights are safe and they feel safe doing that.

(30:04)
I don’t have any specifics. Obviously, as you just mentioned, the executives are on the Hill, and that is something FAA is continuing to look into exactly what’s going on there. I just don’t have anything more to share. I’m going to not get ahead of what they’re looking into.

Speaker 7 (30:21):

And just going back to the earlier question on the UAW, I know you can’t talk about the campaign, but the president has called himself the most pro-union president. We haven’t seen an endorsement yet. Could you just talk a bit about what the president’s message is going to be and your views on whether or not he’s going to clinch that endorsement soon.

Karine Jean-Pierre (30:37):

And not just the president has called himself the most pro-union president, other unions have called him the most pro-union president, so I just want to make that clear.

(30:44)
I cannot speak to endorsements from here, that is something that the campaign would have to speak to. Again, the president was very proud to join union members at the picket line early this fall. He has fought for union members throughout, not just the last three years, but throughout his career. And that’s something that he’s going to continue to do. I’m just not going to speak to any endorsements from here.

(31:04)
Go ahead, Jon.

Jon (31:05):

Thanks, Karine. Can you give an overview about the president’s trip that he’s taking tomorrow to Wisconsin?

Karine Jean-Pierre (31:11):

As you all know, he’s going to go to Superior, Wisconsin. I’m not going to get ahead. We’ll have more to share about that tomorrow, or if not later in the day. Look, and I think I said a little bit about this earlier this week when I announced the trip, he’s going to continue to talk about investing in America, what he’s doing to make American’s lives a little bit more easier, giving them a little bit more breathing room, talk about Bidenomics.

(31:33)
And one thing that I will say, and I don’t want to get ahead of it, I think you saw a tweet from a congressman from Minnesota 8 who touted the Bipartisan Infrastructure Law, something that this congressman, Congressman Stauber, who did not vote for it. And what’s interesting is it was a bipartisan piece of legislation. Obviously we were thankful to Republicans who did work with the president to put forth this Bipartisan Infrastructure Law and voted for it and pushed for it. But there are some Republicans who didn’t, and they see the benefits of this particular law and now are touting it but didn’t vote for it, did not vote for it at all.

(32:13)
So the president’s going to go to Superior, Wisconsin. He’ll have more to say. I’m not going to get ahead of him.

Jon (32:19):

Do you suppose the president will call out that congressman in particular while he’s on the ground there?

Karine Jean-Pierre (32:24):

We’ll see. I mean, I called him out and we called him out on X now, I think it’s called. So we’ll continue to be very clear about that.

(32:34)
Go ahead, April.

April (32:35):

Karine, what do you have to say about the confirmation, Senate confirmation this afternoon, of the 34th and 35th Black women judges in this administration?

Karine Jean-Pierre (32:46):

What to say about that specifically, the confirmation? Look, this is a president who has been very clear and has stuck to his commitment when he said that he wanted to make sure he had an administration that looked like America, including obviously a judicial system that looked like America. And he’s been very proud. He’s been very proud of the women of color, Black women, that he’s been able to put forward to get confirmed for some of these judicial appointments.

(33:14)
And so look, you see that in his administration, you see that in his appointments. He wants to make sure that we represent what this country looks like. And he’s been very proud of that.

April (33:24):

In the long term, what does this administration believe that this will do to reshape the court system and this nation with these appointments?

Karine Jean-Pierre (33:35):

Look, I think it’s important that we have this type of representation. And you hear us say this many times, representation matters. And I think that is important. Make sure we have, obviously not just representation, but the men and women that he has been able to appoint to these position have been incredibly experienced. They’ve been impressive with their own record. They’re more than qualified to have these appointments, and I think that’s important too.

April (34:04):

But I’m drilling down on the Black women, at a time when people are walking away from DEI. And this is historic.

Karine Jean-Pierre (34:11):

It is historic. We agree with you, April. It is historic and important. It is historic and important. But let’s not forget, this is a commitment that the president said that he would move forward with. Making sure we have representation, making sure we have diversity, making sure we have talented, experienced people in these roles. And that’s what he’s doing. That’s what he’s doing.

(34:34)
Go ahead, Weija.

Weija (34:34):

Thank you, Karine. I have more questions about Boeing. Has the White House been in touch with Boeing?

Karine Jean-Pierre (34:41):

Any personal conversations with executives on Boeing?

Weija (34:45):

Correct. Since the loose bolt issues arose.

Karine Jean-Pierre (34:47):

I don’t have any calls or meetings to read out.

Weija (34:49):

Okay. This isn’t the first time the FAA and Boeing have been under scrutiny. The 737 Max was grounded just a few years ago, and you just said that their priority is to make sure people are safe. So did they fail here? I mean, how could we be in this position again?

Karine Jean-Pierre (35:08):

Look, I’m going to start off and say the same thing that I said, their priority is to make sure that Americans feel safe and that they are safe, and they’re going to continue to work toward that goal. And look, certainly everything is being looked into. As it was stated by your colleague, there is a hearing happening on the Hill, and we’re always going to look into what we can do, and FAA is going to do this, to make sure that we do everything possible to make sure that they are safe, that people feel safe.

Weija (35:41):

What’s your message to American flyers who might be thinking, “Well, we can’t trust Boeing, we can’t trust the FAA to do its oversight part, what are we supposed to do?”

Karine Jean-Pierre (35:51):

I think what the president has said and will continue to say is that that’s the FAA’s top priority. Their top priority

Karine Jean-Pierre (36:01):

… is certainly to make sure that Americans feel safe. That’s why they launched an investigation and it is increasing obviously their oversight of Boeing.

(36:11)
And look, and we’ve talked about how the Boeing Max 9 aircraft will remain grounded. That’s what they’re going to do. That’s one way that Americans could feel that FAA has taken action, until FAA is satisfied, they’re satisfied that they are safe to return to service. And so, look, that is a commitment that Americans could be sure of. That is a top priority of FAAs. We want to make sure that we look into it and figure out exactly what happened, and they’re going to get to the bottom of it.

Speaker 14 (36:40):

Thanks.

Karine Jean-Pierre (36:40):

Go ahead.

Speaker 15 (36:42):

Thanks, Karine. Just wanted to get an updated read on inflation impact of the Red Sea attacks. I wonder if the White House is seeing anything in the data that may concern?

Karine Jean-Pierre (36:50):

So we’ve been asked about this a couple of times. I think the Admiral may have been asked about this yesterday as well. Look, these are things that we’re obviously going to continue to monitor. We have not seen any impacts. Our national security team and obviously our economic team are going to continue to keep a close eye on this, on the evolving situation in the Red Sea.

(37:11)
The Department of Transportation and the Navy are in close communication with ocean shippers, insurers industry, and other stakeholders. And we’re taking steps to ensure shipping in the Red Sea is unobstructed. So that is something that we’re certainly going to continue to monitor and keep an eye on.

(37:27)
Okay, go ahead.

Speaker 16 (37:31):

In the wake of recent job cuts that outlets like The Los Angeles Times, does the administration support legislation like that moving forward in California that would require social media platforms to pay news outlets for their content? And is administration concerned about the layoffs at The LA Times time and other outlets?

Karine Jean-Pierre (37:47):

Look, we are always going to support the freedom of speech, obviously, and we believe journalists have a really difficult job, making sure that they are able to report on the facts. And so certainly we’re always going to support that.

(38:08)
And we’ve been very clear and not engaging with The Los Angeles Times while they’re going through this process. I know they went on strike, so we’re very respectful of that as well.

(38:23)
As it relates to the legislation, I haven’t seen the legislation. I haven not spoken to the team here, so I don’t want to get ahead of that. Go ahead.

Speaker 17 (38:33):

Thank you, Karine. This week, Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer called for a crackdown on Zyn nicotine pouches, saying that companies seem to set their sights on young kids, teenagers and even lower and use social media to hook them. Does the administration believe there should be a crackdown on Zyn?

Karine Jean-Pierre (38:50):

That’s something for FDA to speak to. I can’t speak to that from here. I’ve not seen that report, so I would refer you to the FDA specifically.

(38:58)
Go ahead.

Speaker 18 (38:59):

Thank you. There are about 800 gotaways at the border every day, 96,000 since October 1st. Does President Biden want to locate these folks who have disappeared into this country to parts unknown?

Karine Jean-Pierre (39:15):

So, here’s what I will say is that the president, one of the reasons that the president is having these negotiation procedures or process with the Senate, with both Republicans and Democrat, as I’ve said many times before, is because we want to deal with what’s going on at the border. He’s taken this very seriously. He wants to make sure that we come up with a bipartisan agreement, and we are very appreciative for that.

(39:42)
There’s also the diplomatic aspect of it, of making sure that we’re having conversations with Mexico and we have had, and we’ve had productive conversations with them. And DHS is maximizing. They are maximizing its enforcement efforts. And since May 12, and you’ve heard me say this as well, DHS has been able to return more than 482,000 individuals who did not have the legal basis to be here.

(40:07)
So we’re doing what we can at the border. DHS is maximizing their process, doing what they can at the border. But we need help. We need Congress to actually act and do their part as well. And we’re having those negotiations and we’re having those processes.

(40:23)
I cannot speak to the 8,000 number you just provided to me. What I can speak to is what we’re trying to do on the policy side and the funding side to make sure the border patrol of the law enforcement on the ground have what they need.

Speaker 18 (40:38):

Different topic. Is election denying a joke now?

Karine Jean-Pierre (40:43):

What do you mean? You have to say more than just make a random statement.

Speaker 18 (40:47):

Why did the president say, “Hello, Virginia. And the real governor, Terry McAuliffe”?

Karine Jean-Pierre (40:53):

He was making a joke about Terry. He was making a joke.

Speaker 18 (40:55):

What’s the joke?

Karine Jean-Pierre (40:57):

If you play it back, it’s clearly that the president was making a joke.

Speaker 18 (41:00):

What’s the joke?

Karine Jean-Pierre (41:01):

He was making a joke about McAuliffe’s previous term as governor.

Speaker 18 (41:03):

How are you guys going to convince people, though, that this idea of denying election results is very bad if President Biden is going out and making jokes like this?

Karine Jean-Pierre (41:13):

Okay. He did not deny. He did not deny it. He congratulated Governor Youngkin. Matter of fact, when he won his election, he did it out of the gate. Out of the gate. Really, truly, he congratulated the governor. And not only that, we’ve had opportunities to work closely with the governor over the past couple of years. And this is a president that works across the aisle. We’ve seen that many times. And he was making a joke.

(41:42)
Go ahead, Toluse.

Toluse (41:43):

Do you have an update on the border negotiations? Has the president made any calls or done anything over the past couple of days to move those negotiations along?

Karine Jean-Pierre (41:50):

So, the update that I can give you is that our team has been in regular contact daily with the negotiators on the Hill doing, obviously, as I mentioned many times, both Republicans and Democrats. We feel like it’s been in good faith. We feel like… We are grateful that these conversations have been happening for the past couple of months and we certainly want them to continue.

(42:14)
As it relates to the president, the president tends to have conversations with members of Congress because of his long-term relationships with many of them. Don’t have anything to read out, but I can say that our team here has been in regular contact, daily contact with negotiators.

Toluse (42:30):

There was reportedly a pretty raucous lunch in the GOP Senate conference yesterday. A little bit of debate over whether or not Republicans should have multiple days, potentially up to three weeks to review this as opposed to a deal being put on the floor and senators being forced to vote on it very quickly. Does the president, who was in the Senate for a very long time, have thoughts on whether or not Republican senators and Democratic senators should have time to review what the deal is?

Karine Jean-Pierre (42:56):

As it relates to the process and how they’re moving forward, the process and the technical and the procedures and all of the things that is related to passing legislation or agreeing on a piece of legislation, that’s something for the leadership to speak to. I can’t speak to it from here.

(43:12)
All right, we have to gather. Let’s see. Go ahead sir.

Speaker 19 (43:15):

Thanks, Karine. Kirby mentioned those ongoing talks with Mexico about immigration. Has that dialogue and the handshake deal with China from last year yielded any substantive results regarding Fentanyl flow in the country yet?

Karine Jean-Pierre (43:31):

Oh yeah, absolutely. And I believe we made some announcements.

Speaker 19 (43:35):

Can we get some numbers?

Karine Jean-Pierre (43:36):

Yeah, happy to get back to you with some announcement that we made after the meeting that the president had with President Xi on what we think was a productive conversation on Fentanyl specifically.

(43:46)
Look, the president has been very clear. When it comes to Fentanyl, he wants to make sure that we get that out of our communities across the country, and has been very committed in having conversation with Mexico and having conversation with China. We’re happy to give you a more update on that.

(44:01)
We have to go because you all have to gather because the president’s heading to UAW.

(44:05)
Thanks everybody.

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