Jim Jordan & Jerry Nadler Exchange When Jordan Blocked From Showing Video: Transcript

Mr. Jordan: (00:02)
Mr Chairman, we have a video we’d like to play.

Ms Dean: (00:07)
Mr Chairman?

Mr. Jordan: (00:08)
We have a video we’d like to play.

Ms Dean: (00:10)
Mr Chairman?

Mr. Nadler: (00:11)
Ms Dean.

Ms Dean: (00:13)
I object.

Mr. Nadler: (00:14)
What purpose does Ms Dean seek recognition?

Ms Dean: (00:16)
I object. I’m reserving my right to object to the video.

Mr. Jordan: (00:21)
Why would-

Ms Dean: (00:21)
May I inquire as to whether the gentleman has followed the judiciary committee’s AV protocol by providing 48 hours notice to the committee’s clerk that he was going to use a video?

Mr. Jordan: (00:34)
We provided notice. Well, first of all, there’s no 48 hour rule. That’s not in the committee rules. Second, we did let the committee staff, the majority know that we had a video and we gave the video to them this morning.

Mr. Nadler: (00:45)
Responding to the gentle lady’s request, he did not. He did not supply the 48 hours rule.

Mr. Jordan: (00:52)
Mr Chairman-

Mr. Nadler: (00:53)
48 hours notice required by the rule.

Mr. Jordan: (00:55)
Mr Chairman-

Ms Dean: (00:57)
Then I insist on my objection. Having failed to follow the bipartisan protocol, I insist on my objection.

Mr. Nadler: (01:03)
An objection has been heard. The video will not be shown.

Speaker 4: (01:06)
I appeal the ruling in the chair.

Mr. Nadler: (01:07)
You’re appealing?

Speaker 5: (01:08)
No ruling has been made. There has been an objection.

Mr. Nadler: (01:08)
There has been no ruling has been made. There’s been an objection.

Mr. Jordan: (01:14)
Mr Chairman I’d like to speak regarding-

Mr. Nadler: (01:16)
No. That’s out of order. This is not debatable.

Mr. Jordan: (01:19)
What’s out of order is there is no rule that requires a 48 hour notice. That’s what’s out of order.

Mr. Nadler: (01:23)
There is such a rule.

Mr. Jordan: (01:24)
There is not. Not in our rules.

Speaker 6: (01:27)
Mr Chairman, what are you afraid of?

Mr. Nadler: (01:29)
There is such a rule. You objected last year. You were told there was such a rule. [crosstalk 00:01:33]

Speaker 6: (01:33)
Mr Chairman, what are our colleagues on the other side of the aisle afraid of?

Speaker 5: (01:36)
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Speaker 6: (01:36)
Are they afraid of videos of parents?

Mr. Nadler: (01:38)
The gentleman was recognized for his opening statement. Is he finished with his opening statement?

Speaker 4: (01:46)
Overruling in the chair.

Mr. Jordan: (01:46)
I’m not finished with my opening statement.

Speaker 6: (01:46)
I seek recognition for a parliamentary inquiry.

Mr. Nadler: (01:46)
The gentleman should proceed with his opening statement.

Mr. Jordan: (01:46)
It’s not a rule. It’s what you said, I think the term you used was it’s protocol. [crosstalk 00:01:52] conduct of the committee, rules do.

Mr. Nadler: (01:55)
The gentlewoman objected.

Mr. Jordan: (01:55)
That’s not a rule. We had a video. We understood you had a video.

Speaker 6: (01:59)
I seek recognition for a parliamentary inquiry.

Mr. Nadler: (02:01)
Gentlewoman objected because you failed to follow the rule. Her objection is sustained.

Speaker 6: (02:07)
Mr Chairman I seek-

Mr. Nadler: (02:08)
Does the gentleman have anything else [crosstalk 00:02:11]

Speaker 6: (02:10)
I seek recognition for a parliamentary inquiry.

Mr. Jordan: (02:15)
I’ll yield back in just a second, and particularly I’d you’re going to recognize Mr-

Mr. Nadler: (02:18)
The gentleman yields back?

Mr. Jordan: (02:18)
No, I haven’t yielded back yet. I said I will in a second. It’s a video about parents at school board meetings. Moms and dads speaking at school board meetings, and you guys aren’t going to let us play it?

Mr. Nadler: (02:28)
It will not played. An objection has been heard that you failed to give the 48 hours required by the rule, and therefore it will not be heard.

Speaker 6: (02:37)
What rule? Mr Chairman, what rule? Parliamentary inquiry. What rule? Please present the rule.

Mr. Nadler: (02:44)
The case of audiovisual materials under the leadership of my predecessor Chairman Goodlack, republican. The committee developed a written protocol for managing the use of audio visual materials in our hearings.

Speaker 6: (02:56)
Written protocol.

Mr. Nadler: (02:57)
This protocol simply requires members to provide 48 hours notice they are going to use audiovisual materials. Until recently, this protocol was not controversial. It was a helpful tool used to manage hearings and make sure videos played properly. The gentlewoman has objected to the materials because the gentleman did not provide the agreed upon 48 hours notice. Playing audiovisual materials during a committee hearing is the equivalent of introducing printed materials into the hearing record. In the normal course of business we do not object to each other’s requests, but members have the right to object if they so choose, and an objection has been heard.

Speaker 6: (03:32)
Mr Chairman, did we ever vote on that?

Speaker 5: (03:35)
The gentleman is-

Speaker 6: (03:35)
That’s a clever written statement, but a protocol is not a rule.

Mr. Nadler: (03:38)
The gentleman was recognized for his opening statement.

Speaker 5: (03:43)
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Mr. Jordan: (03:43)
Mr Chairman, obviously you’re not going to let us play it. Obviously you’re going to censor us, which is the conduct of the left today it seems, and democrats today it seems. I yield back the balance of my time.

Mr. Nadler: (03:53)
Gentleman yields back. Point of order. Gentleman will state his point of order.

Speaker 6: (04:06)
[inaudible 00:04:06] the actual written rule. This is not a rule.

Mr. Nadler: (04:13)
That is not a point of order, as I said before. Playing audiovisual materials during a committee hearing is the equivalent of introducing printed materials into the hearing record. During the normal course of business, we not object to each other’s requests, but members have the right to object as they so choose and an objection has been heard.

Speaker 6: (04:30)
That is not a rule, sir. I’ve asked you rule on my point of order.

Speaker 5: (04:35)
The gentleman has not made a valid point of order.

Mr. Nadler: (04:38)
The gentleman has not made a valid point of order.

Speaker 5: (04:39)
Now we recognize the [crosstalk 00:04:41]

Mr. Nadler: (04:40)
The gentleman has [crosstalk 00:04:41]

Speaker 7: (04:41)
Move to table. Move to table.

Mr. Nadler: (04:43)
There’s nothing to appeal. There’s been no ruling. There has been no ruling.

Speaker 5: (04:48)
There’s just been an objection.

Mr. Nadler: (04:49)
There has just been an objection and the objection has been heard.