Jul 15, 2020

Mike Pompeo Press Conference Transcript July 15

Mike Pompeo gives press conference July 15
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Secretary of State Mike Pompeo gave a press conference on July 15. He said the United States will impose visa restrictions on some Chinese tech companies. Read the full transcript here.

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Mike Pompeo: (00:00)
I want to start by marking … Yeah. Good morning. Good to see you [inaudible 00:00:04]. James, great to see you back.

James: (00:05)
Likewise.

Mike Pompeo: (00:05)
Welcome. I want to start by marking two anniversaries. First on July 11th, the United States and Vietnam celebrated the 25th anniversary of the establishment of diplomatic relations between our two countries. Quite an achievement. And second, this week marks the anniversaries of two terrorist attacks by Iran backed Hezbollah. The 1994 bombing of the AMIA Jewish Community Center in Buenos Aires, Argentina. And the 2012 suicide bomb targeting Israeli tourists in Bulgaria. We continue to exert maximum pressure on Tehran and call on all responsible nations to join us in that.

Mike Pompeo: (00:43)
Now to the events of the day. Yesterday, President Trump signed the Hong Kong Autonomy Act and announced a series of actions through a presidential executive order. As he said in May, if China treats Hong Kong as one country and a single system, so must we. General Secretary Xi Jinping made a choice to violate the Chinese Communist Party’s promises to Hong Kong that were made in a UN Registered Treaty. He didn’t have to do that. He made that choice. We have to deal with China as it is, not as we wish it to be. Other nations are arriving at the same conclusion. Australia and Canada have suspended their extradition treaties with the territory.

Mike Pompeo: (01:21)
I leave on Monday for a quick trip to the United Kingdom and to Denmark. And I’m sure that the Chinese Communist Party and its threat to free peoples around the world will be high on top of that agenda. We’ll certainly take time to discuss the UK’s commendable decision to ban Huawei gear from it’s 5G networks, and phase out the equipment from its existing networks. The UK joins the United States and now many other democracies in becoming clean countries, nations free of untrusted 5G vendors. In the same way, many major telecom companies like Telefonica, Telco Italia, and NTT have become clean carriers. After my London stop, I’m equally excited to meet with my counterparts from the Kingdom of Denmark. It’ll be a wonderful trip.

Mike Pompeo: (02:14)
The United States has a Huawei announcement of our own today. State Department will impose visa restrictions on certain employees of Chinese technology companies like Huawei that provide material support to regimes engaging in human rights violations and abuses globally. The last note on China. On Monday, for the first time we made our policy on the South China Sea crystal clear. It’s not China’s maritime empire. If Beijing violates international law and free nations do nothing, then history shows that the CCP will simply take more territory. That happened in the last administration. Our statement gives significant support to ASEAN leaders who have declared that the South China Sea disputes must be resolved through international law, not might makes right. What the CCP does to the Chinese people is bad enough. But the free world shouldn’t tolerate Beijing’s abuses as well.

Mike Pompeo: (03:12)
Moving on. Today the Department of State is updating the public guidance for CATS authorities to include Nord Stream 2. And the second line of Turk Stream 2. This action puts investments or other activities that are related to these Russian energy export pipelines at risk of U.S. sanctions. It’s a clear warning to companies aiding and embedding Russia’s malign influence projects will not be tolerated. Get out now or risk the consequences.

Mike Pompeo: (03:41)
Let me be clear, these aren’t commercial projects. They are Kremlin’s key tools to exploit and expand European dependence on Russian energy supplies. Tools that undermine Ukraine by cutting off gas transiting, that critical democracy. A tool that ultimately undermines transatlantic security. The United States is always ready to help our European friends meet their energy needs. Today I have with me Assistant Secretary for the Bureau of Energy Resources, Frank Fannon, who’ll take questions here when I’m complete with respect to this action.

Mike Pompeo: (04:11)
A second Russia related matter. I want to express the United States’ deep sadness at the report of killing yesterday of a Ukrainian military medic. We join the people of Ukraine and condemning the ongoing brutal aggression of Russia led forces in the Donbass, and pay tribute to Ukrainians killed and wounded fighting for their democracy.

Mike Pompeo: (04:30)
To Africa, the United States and Kenya launched the first round of negotiations for a bilateral free trade agreement on July 8th. Our vision is to conclude a comprehensive, very high standard agreement with Kenya that can serve as a model for the entire continent. In the Caucasus region, the United States is deeply concerned about the recent deadly violence along the Armenia Azerbaijan international border. We offer our condolences to all of the victims. We urge the sides to deescalate immediately and reestablish a meaningful dialogue, and a ceasefire to presume sustained negotiations with the [inaudible 00:05:06] group, as co-chairs.

Mike Pompeo: (05:08)
A little closer to home. Today I’m announcing visa restrictions on individuals responsible for or complicit in undermining democracy in Ghana. Immediate family members of such persons may also be subject to restrictions. The Granger Government must respect the results of democratic elections and step aside. A few weeks back, I think right here, I called out the Pan-American Health Organization for failing to disclose details of the Mais Médicos Program that used Cuba slave trade and doctors to rake in more than $1 billion. Today I welcome that organization, PAHO/WHO’s decision to initiate an independent review.

Mike Pompeo: (05:47)
Regarding Venezuela, the UN has found yet more harrowing evidence of gross human rights violations by the illegitimate Maduro regime. Citing more than 1,300 extrajudicial executions for political reasons in 2020 alone. International pressure on Maduro must continue until the Venezuelan people can reclaim their democracy. A final item on the Western hemisphere this morning, United States officially assumed the chair of the Summit of America’s Process on Friday of this week passed. We’re looking forward to hosting the ninth summit of Americas in 2021.

Mike Pompeo: (06:21)
Since I last spoke to you, the Department has notified Congress of almost $25 billion more in potential foreign military sales, including a proposed sale to Japan of a 105 F35 Lightening fighter jets valued at up to $23 billion. It’s the second largest sale, single sale notification in U.S. history. The sale and others accompanying it continue to demonstrate the robust global demand for American defense partnerships.

Mike Pompeo: (06:48)
We’re helping the world in other ways too. Today we’re providing an additional $208 million to the most vulnerable nations to overcome the COVID-19 pandemic, bringing our total now to more than $1.5 billion since the outbreak began. Pretty remarkable charity from the United States people. But no American export, no amount of money is as important as our principles. Tomorrow I’ll be at the National Constitution Center in Philadelphia. I’ll present the public report of the State Department’s commission on unalienable rights. As I explained at the Claremont Institute last year, and again at Kansas State University during the Landon lecture, this administration grounds our practice of foreign policy in America’s founding principles.

Mike Pompeo: (07:33)
There’s nothing more fundamental to who we are than our irreverence for unalienable rights. The basic God-given rights that every human being possesses. Whether defending the American people from threats, supporting international religious freedom, or encouraging countries to secure property rights by upholding the rule of law, America defends rights and does good in the world. Tomorrow you get to hear some of my thoughts on the Commission’s fine recommendations that are encompassed in the report that they’ve been working on now so diligently and for so long. Happy to take a handful of questions.

Speaker 1: (08:06)
Okay. We’re going to attempt to give [Matt Lee 00:08:07] the first question from AP. Matt, go ahead. You’re on the line.

Matt Lee: (08:12)
Hello? Can you hear me?

Speaker 1: (08:14)
We can hear you. Voice [crosstalk 00:08:16]-

Matt Lee: (08:17)
Ah-hah. Well, good morning. And greetings from my basement. Mr. Secretary, it’s been a long time. I’m sure you’ve missed me as much as I missed you.

Mike Pompeo: (08:26)
We miss you, Matt.

Matt Lee: (08:27)
Can I ask things really quickly? One, on the Nord Stream and Turk Stream sanctions. You’re saying if I get this correctly, that any company that is involved in this, even those who had been previously grandfathered in with sanctions exemptions are now subject to those sanctions, is that correct? Number one. And then secondly on Iran. You guys had talked about the idea of bringing the arms embargo extension resolution to the Security Council as early as this week. And that doesn’t look like it’s happening now. And I’m just wondering, are you hoping to staunch some of the opposition that you’re seeing to the resolution from the Europeans and others, with a little bit more time for diplomacy? Thank you.

Mike Pompeo: (09:24)
Thank you, Matt. It’s good to hear your voice. On the first one. So what State Department’s action today is, is we’re going to revise the guidance. And you’ll see that. I’ll let Frank Fannon talk to you about the details of its implementation, its execution. But I think we should be very clear. Our expectation is, is that those who participate in the continued project will be subject to review for potential consequences related to that activity.

Mike Pompeo: (09:54)
As for Iran and timing, you suggested that we’ve delayed because of opposition. In fact, virtually everyone agrees that the arms embargo should be extended. Our European counterparts too are very concerned about what will happen if the arms embargo itself expires on October 18th of this year. And so there’s enormous consensus around the objective how to achieve that objective. There’s different views on. We’ve made clear to both publicly and in private to all the members of the Security Council, we intend to ensure that this arms embargo continues. We hope that this can be done by UN Security Council resolution that all of the permanent members sign up for. And indeed every members of the larger UN Security Council.

Mike Pompeo: (10:38)
But in the event that that’s not the case, we are still going to do everything in our power to achieve that end. And we think we’ll be successful ultimately in doing that. The precise timing of that, we’re going to keep to ourselves until such time as we’re ready to move to the UN Security Council to introduce the resolution. We’re not that far away from doing that, Matt.

Speaker 1: (10:58)
James, go ahead.

James: (11:00)
Mr. Secretary, I have two questions if I may on China. Yesterday in his lengthy remarks, President Trump indicated that it’s been quite some time since he last spoke to Chinese president Xi Jinping. This suggests that there is effectively no engagement between our two countries at top levels. It seems that just about every day or several times a week, one or the both of you announce some incremental new measure aimed at punishing the Chinese regime. But I don’t think as you stand there right now that you can tell us that over the several months, this has been going on without this form of engagement, that there’s been any discernible change in China’s conduct. So are you essentially tilting at windmills with these various incremental steps? And then I have a followup.

Mike Pompeo: (11:52)
Why don’t you ask your second one, and I’ll take them both, James.

James: (11:55)
If you don’t mind, I’d prefer to ask it separately. They’re very separate.

Mike Pompeo: (11:58)
I do mind. If you have ask the second one, I’ll get to it.

James: (12:01)
In our interview a little over a year ago, Mr. Secretary, I asked you if you considered Iran to be an evil regime. And you said quite simply, “Yes.” I’m wondering if, as a member of the Trump administration, as a seasoned student of and practitioner of international relations, or simply as a devout Christian, you regard China as an evil regime?

Mike Pompeo: (12:24)
So let me take the first one. You began by saying that as the President said yesterday, he hasn’t talked to Xi Jinping in quite some time. I think the call was in March if I remember correctly, but I’ll defer to the White House on the last time they’ve spoken. But there has been high level conversation. I traveled to Hawaii. Now seems like a little while ago, but it was just a few weeks back where I met with Yang Jiechi. We continue to have a dialogue and conversations at every level within the State Department. It’s happening in other agencies across the U.S. government too. So there’s a significant amount of conversation between the two countries. What’s important, James, is that conversation has changed. The conversation is different than we’ve had, frankly for decades between the United States and the Chinese Communist Party. It is no longer …

Mike Pompeo: (13:10)
And I think Chinese leadership understand it is no longer the case that it’s going to be acceptable to the United States to simply going to allow the important commercial relationships that we have between our two countries, to put the American people at risk. And that’s what had happened. This isn’t political, this is multiple administrations across both of the major political parties. Where for an awful long time, our policy simply reflected allowing China to engage in behavior that was radically unreciprocal, enormously unfair to the American people. And frankly, put America’s national security at risk. And so we have begun to turn that around. There is still real work that needs to be done. But you can see in each of the policies that the administration undertaken in the last two and a half years, a market reversal.

Mike Pompeo: (13:59)
In terms of Chinese behavior, how have they responded? You’ve seen the language that they use. You can see that we’re having a real impact. And we will continue to do the things we need to do to make sure that the American people are safe and secure. And that we have a set of fair and reciprocal relationships. That’s the end state desire. We want good things for the people of China. We have a Chinese Communist Party that is putting freedom and democracy at risk by their expansionist imperialist, authoritarian behavior. That’s the behavior that we’re trying to see changed. We’ve still got work to do. This is a regime that failed to disclose information they had about a virus that’s now killed over a 100,000 Americans, hundreds of thousands across the world. Cost the global economy trillions and trillions of dollars. And now is allowing the World Health Organization to go in to conduct what I am confident will be a completely, completely whitewashed investigation.

Mike Pompeo: (14:58)
The reason … I hope I’m wrong. I hope it’s a thorough investigation that gets fully to the bottom of it. I’ve watched the Chinese Communist Party’s behavior with respect to the virus that emanated from Wuhan. And they have simply refused. They’ve destroyed samples. They’ve taken journalists and doctors who were prepared to talk about this, and not permitted them to do what nations that want to play on a truly global scale and global stage ought to do, be transparent and open, and communicate, and cooperate.

Mike Pompeo: (15:23)
And the Chinese use that word, the Chinese Communist Party talks about win-win and cooperation. Cooperation isn’t about nice language or summits, or meetings between foreign ministers. It’s about actions. And that’s the expectation that we are setting for the Chinese Communist Party. We need to see fair reciprocal responses. We’re hopeful that they’ll complete their requirements under the phase one trade deal. And we’re hopeful that we’ll see changes in their behavior across the entire spectrum, where they have unfairly treated America for far too long. Your second question was about China and how we use language. I’ll leave my comments about China precisely where I just left them. The previous-

James: (16:00)
It’s a simple question. Are they an evil regime?

Mike Pompeo: (16:02)
I appreciate your question. I’m going to leave my comments for today precisely where it is. I will tell you, the things that are happening on a human rights scale I’ve described as the stain of the century. I stand by those remarks.

Speaker 1: (16:14)
[Nikey 00:16:13], go ahead.

Speaker 2: (16:14)
Thank you, [inaudible 00:16:15]. Good morning, Mr. Secretary. How are you?

Mike Pompeo: (16:17)
I’m good, Nikey. How are you today?

Speaker 2: (16:19)
Good.

Mike Pompeo: (16:19)
Good.

Speaker 2: (16:19)
Two questions if I may. The first one is on in China and Iran. The second one is on China and Taiwan. I would like to, what is your assessment of the prospective trade and military partnership between Iran and China? And how would you respond to criticism that the U.S. sanctions have further strengthened than the alliance between the two countries? And separately if I may on Taiwan and China, what is your comment on China’s threats to impose sanctions American company, Lockheed Martin, over U.S. arms sold to Taiwan? What is a calculation of the State Department when it approved the arms sell to Taiwan? And should U.S. companies be punished when the U.S. government is implementing the Taiwan Relations Act? Thank you.

Mike Pompeo: (17:18)
Yeah. So your second question is, no. Of course not. We had an American company conducting business that was consistent with American foreign policy, the policy of the arm sales that we made to Taiwan. I regret that the Chinese Communist Party chose to make that threat against Lockheed Martin. It’s not the first time they’ve chosen to do that to an American contractor who was working on a program that was between the United States and Taiwan. And so I regret that. I hope they’ll reconsider that and not follow through on the remarks that were made yesterday or the day before when they made them.

Mike Pompeo: (17:52)
Your first question was about Iran and China. I mean, well, a little history is in order, right? Think about long time ago, Persia … As the relationship, this is not brand new. But I think what you saw in the reporting there and something we’ve been following, is evidence of a couple simple things.

Mike Pompeo: (18:13)
First, the need to extend the arms embargo. Right? Now we have a reporting that suggests that not only when the arms embargo will expire, does the Secretary of State of the United States believe that China will sell weapons systems to Iran. But the Iranians believe that China will sell systems to Iran. And indeed they have been working on it, waiting for this day, waiting for midnight on October 18th for this arms embargo to expire. I think Europeans should stare at that and realize that the risk of this is real and that the work between Iran and the Chinese Communist Party may well commence rapidly and robustly on October 19th, if we’re not successful at extending the UN arms embargo.

Mike Pompeo: (18:54)
As for the larger picture, we have a set of sanctions related to any company or country that engages in activity with Iran. The sanctions are clear. We have been unambiguous about enforcing them against our companies from allies’ countries, from all across the world. We would certainly do that with respect to activity between Iran and China as well.

Speaker 1: (19:19)
Sarah, go ahead.

Sarah: (19:20)
Good morning. Three questions [inaudible 00:19:24]. First on-

Mike Pompeo: (19:25)
Yes. That seems to be the rule today.

Sarah: (19:25)
Yeah.

Mike Pompeo: (19:25)
So yes.

Sarah: (19:27)
From Channel 4 News in the UK, you’ve commended the UK decision on Huawei. The decision is very much based on U.S. sanctions. And the policy may change if the U.S. sanctions change. Is there any idea for a review on those sanctions? And secondly, with the coronavirus of course, there’s been restrictions on visas for UK citizens entering the U.S. Both governments pride themselves on a very special relationship. Is there any notice of those restrictions being relieved?

Mike Pompeo: (19:59)
I hope so. We are working closely not only with the United Kingdom, but with countries all across the Schengen zone and across Europe more broadly. And indeed countries in Asia as well to do our best to get the science and health right, to get international travel back open. It’s a complicated process. Each country’s got a set of different conditions. And as you can see in many countries, even regionally, they have different conditions on the ground. We’re trying to get that right. And we certainly hope that we can get this going with the United Kingdom just as quickly as possible. I had an update, I think it was two days ago now, we’re getting closer to a common set of understandings about how we’ll do that. Not only that we’ll do it, but the procedures that we would use so that we could execute that safely.

Mike Pompeo: (20:41)
Your first question was the British decision with respect to Huawei yesterday. We were happy about it. Faster’s always better to get this equipment out of their system. It’s a security risk. This isn’t about commercial interest. This is about protecting the information in this case of the United Kingdom’s people. You suggested they did this because of U.S. sanctions. I don’t actually think that’s true. I actually think they did this because their security teams came to the same conclusion that ours have, is that you can’t protect this information. This information that transits across these untrusted networks that are of Chinese origin will almost certainly end up in the hands of the Chinese Communist Party. And so I think they did this for the right reasons. I think they did this to protect and preserve, and secure the freedoms of the people of the United Kingdom.

Mike Pompeo: (21:26)
And I’m confident they’ll continue in that policy. I think Prime Minister Johnson got complete right end of the stick on this one. I’m pleased to see that. And I’m pleased to see this is happening all across the world. The tide is turning. I remember questions from you all a year and a half ago that said, “Oh my goodness, it’s just the United States.” I think the work that’s been done and the work that we’ve enabled to be done all across the world is now making clear to everyone and that there is a real security risk. Now every nation is simply asking the question, “How do you do it? What are the commercial impacts? How quickly can you move in that direction? And how do we ensure that we have available cost effective solutions that don’t subject our people to the risk that comes from having this infrastructure inside of the countries?”

Mike Pompeo: (22:08)
I think in fact, the tide has turned there. And you’ll see this continue in countries all across the … You’re see the world’s biggest telecom providers sharing this same concern. I listed a few today. I listed a few the last time I was up here, maybe it was the time before. You’re seeing private telco providers understand the risks that their companies bear from putting these untrusted vendors in their networks as well.

Speaker 1: (22:29)
Michelle, go ahead.

Michelle: (22:31)
Thank you so much. Thank you, Mr. Secretary. I have two question. You were disappointed by Turkey’s decision to Hagia Sophia back into a mosque. Are you considering any sanctions on Turkey? And on Lebanon news reports say that Hezbollah and the government are waiting for the U.S. presidential elections outcome to decide what to do. You have any advice for them?

Mike Pompeo: (22:56)
So with respect to Hagia Sophia, we were disappointed. We regret the decision that the Turkish government made. I don’t have anything else to add to that. As for Lebanon-

Michelle: (23:05)
No sanctions?

Mike Pompeo: (23:07)
I just don’t have anything else to add this morning. As for Lebanon, the Lebanese people have a simple set of demands. It’s really very straightforward. They don’t want corruption. They want a government that’s responsive to the people. They want a government that is not subject to influence from designated terrorist group, Hezbollah. They want what people all across the world want. That’s what they’re in the streets marching and asking for. They want basic economic activity restored. They want taxes to be collected in a fair way. These are the things that the people of Lebanon are demanding. They should continue to demand them. And when a government shows up that will do that well and do that right. I am very confident that countries from all across the world and the IMF will show up to provide them with the financing they need to execute a reform plan that is worthy of the people of Lebanon. And I think that will happen whether in this administration or the next one. I think the United States’ position here has been pretty clear and is bipartisan.

Michelle: (24:11)
Thank you.

Speaker 1: (24:11)
[inaudible 00:24:11]. Yes.

Speaker 3: (24:13)
Thanks, [inaudible 00:24:14]. Mr. Secretary.

Mike Pompeo: (24:15)
Yes, sir.

Speaker 3: (24:15)
Just one question.

Mike Pompeo: (24:18)
With two parts, right?

Speaker 3: (24:19)
And what should we infer from your statement on the South China Sea? I mean, the fait accompli that China has created in the South China Sea, they remain in place. They remain fait accompli the fishing fleet, the maritime militia, they continue to operate in what is considered disputed. What are your expectations? What should we infer are your expectations of China following this strengthened U.S. position?

Mike Pompeo: (24:44)
Yeah. So after extensive legal review, the State Department for the first time made clear what we believe the law reflects. This is how the United States operates all across the world. And so we sat down very clear to the markers that says, these are the legal requirements. That we will then go use the tools that we have available. And we will support countries all across the world who recognize that China has violated their legal territorial claims as well, or maritime claims as well.

Mike Pompeo: (25:12)
And we’ll go provide them the assistance we can, whether that’s in multilateral bodies, whether that’s in ASEAN, whether that’s through a legal responses. We’ll use all the tools we can. You use the term, fait accompli. I think things have shifted dramatically in the region. I think you’re seeing countries all throughout Asia, and indeed in Southeast Asia, and in the Pacific, recognizing that the United States is prepared to do the things necessary to assist them in protecting their valid, legal claims.

Mike Pompeo: (25:45)
So I think it was really important. The statement we made on Monday, I think was very, very important in not only demarcating the United States’ position, but making clear that we’ll support other nations of the region that do a similar thing with respect to protecting their capacity, to preserve the maritime boundaries that their people are entitled to. And I’ve got time for one more.

Speaker 1: (26:04)
Ebony, go ahead.

Ebony: (26:05)
Mr. Secretary, two questions if you’ll indulge me.

Mike Pompeo: (26:08)
Yes. Ma’am.

Ebony: (26:08)
You spoke earlier about how much the U.S. relationship with China has changed over the last few decades. I’m wondering if you consider India an increasingly important trade and military partner? And if those conversations are happening at a higher level? And secondly, I would like to know if there’s been any development in the negotiations with European officials on the travel ban? And as our cases continued to spike, if it’s possible that the region will remain off limits to U.S. travelers for the rest of the year.

Mike Pompeo: (26:35)
Yeah. I’ll leave to the White House Task Force the details. But yeah, we’ve been working with Europeans, everyone’s trying to get it right. Everybody’s trying to do the analysis. We know this, we know there’s a way to safely travel to make sure people come here. That we don’t create risks for them when Americans travel with their country and they don’t create increased risk when they travel here. We know there’s a way to achieve that, and we’re going to do it. We’re going to do it as quickly as possible.

Mike Pompeo: (27:00)
Your first question was about India. And you started with the predicate of our relationship with China has changed. I think it’s worth noting. The reason for that change is the Chinese Communist Party’s behavior. That’s important. I listened to some of the narrative that flows out of China. Some of the disinformation. People use language like tit for tat. These aren’t tit for tat exchanges. This is America standing up for its own people and the world now, coming to understand the threat that the Chinese Communist Party.

Mike Pompeo: (27:33)
So the extent there’s been a change in relationship, it is a direct result of the behavior of the Chinese Communist Party. And so when that stops, we’ll do that. India’s been a great partner. And I’m going to speak to the U.S. Indian Business Council here in a couple of hours, I think. Or maybe it’s this afternoon now. They’re an important partner of ours. I have a great relationship with my foreign minister counterpart. We talk frequently about a broad range of issues.

Mike Pompeo: (28:00)
We talked about the conflict they had along their border with China. We’ve talked about the risk that emanates to China from Chinese telecommunications infrastructure there. You saw the decision they made to ban some several dozen Chinese software firms from operating inside of their country on the phones of people operating inside of India. I think the whole world is coalescing around the challenge that we face in the democracies, that free nations of the world will push back on these challenges together. I’m very competent of that. Thanks everybody. Thanks for joining me today.

Speaker 1: (28:33)
Frank Fennon.

Mike Pompeo: (28:33)
Frank’s going to answer some questions for you on the revised language to our CATSA guidance. Thanks, everybody.