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Press Briefing Briefing by Press Secretary Karine Jean-Pierre 7/19/23 Transcript

Press Briefing Briefing by Press Secretary Karine Jean-Pierre 7/19/23 Transcript

Press Briefing Briefing by Press Secretary Karine Jean-Pierre 7/19/23. Read the transcript here.

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Audience (00:00):

[inaudible 00:00:00]

Karine Jean-Pierre (02:18):

Good afternoon, everybody.

Audience (02:20):

Good afternoon.

Karine Jean-Pierre (02:20):

Oh, nice. I love that. Okay, so this afternoon, as you all know, the president will convene his competition council to mark the second anniversary of the council’s work to lower costs for the American people and strengthen our economy. Promoting competition to lower costs and support small businesses is a central pillar of Bidenomics. As the president says, “Capitalism without competition isn’t capitalism, it is exploitation.”

(02:49)
Without competition, costs add up. One study found that higher prices and lower wages caused by lack of competition cost the median American household as much as $5, 000 annually. The president’s competition council continues to deliver results. The Department of Agriculture is helping lower food prices with a historic partnership with over two dozen bipartisan state attorney generals to promote competition and crackdown on price gouging in food and agricultural markets. Zillow, Apartments.com and AffordableHousing.com answered the president’s call to eliminate hidden junk fees by committing to show prospective renters all fees upfront, and the Department of Justice and the Federal Trade Commission are proposing updated merger guidelines to protect the American people from anticompetitive mergers.

(03:42)
This follows bold actions we have taken to eliminate hidden junk fees and high costs in air travel, healthcare, banking, and hearing aids that are all saving families hundreds and sometimes even thousands of dollars a year. The council’s work is another example of Bidenomics at work that is lowering cost and creating a more level playing field for small business entrepreneurs and also workers. Another event that is happening here today or happened earlier, we had more than 90 state legislators from across the country that came to the White House for a state convening on childcare with First Lady, Dr. Jill Biden, and also the Director of the Gender Policy Council, Jen Klein, the Director of Domestic Policy Council, Neera Tanden, and the Director of the Office of Intergovernmental Affairs, Tom Perez. The conversation was centered around how we can all work together to expand access to affordable childcare, take on out-of-pocket costs, and support childcare workforce.

(04:46)
We hosted today’s convening because the Biden-Harris Administration understands that high quality care is fundamental to families across the country and the implementation of care depends on the states. States determine who is eligible for childcare assistance, how much parents will pay out of pocket, and how much child providers are reimbursed. And now thanks to the actions taken by this administration, states have even more avenues to improve childcare access, affordability, and also quality. As the president has said many times, “No parent should have to choose between caring for their children or the paycheck they rely on to take care of their children.” This work is more important than ever and we will continue. We will continue to take actions that provide relief to working families, that breathing room that the president talks about often as well.

(05:37)
Now turning to Ukraine, some news there. The Department of Defense announced a new security assistance package to support the people of Ukraine as they bravely defend their country. This package includes more critical air defense capabilities such as national advanced surface-to-air missile systems and additional systems to help Ukraine shoot down Russian and Ukrainian drones. The package also includes additional artillery rounds and mine-clearing equipment, as well as unmanned aerial systems, and equipment that will help Ukraine better protect its ports. These latter capabilities will become increasingly important, especially now that Russia has pulled out of the grain deal and has renewed attacks on port cities as we have seen over the past two days. The weapons and equipment we are announcing today are being procured by the Defense Department for Ukraine through the Ukraine Security Assistance Initiative as part of our commitment to strengthen Ukraine’s military over the near and also long term. As President Biden made clear in Vilnius last week, the United States is committed to supporting Ukraine alongside our allies and partners now and for the long future as we head into the future, clearly.

(06:52)
Finally, one last thing. As many of you know, the Women’s World Cup begins in less than 24 hours. How exciting. The Second Gentleman, Doug Emhoff, is leading the US delegation to the tournament. He’ll attend tomorrow’s opening ceremony as well as Team USA’s first game against Vietnam on Friday. Go Team USA. In addition to World Cup events and engagements with Team USA, the second gentleman will highlight US and New Zealand shared values and priorities during his trip through his engagement with civil society, the private sector and community leaders in New Zealand. The second gentleman will also deliver remarks to young women and girls as part of a panel discussion on gender equity and women in sports. He is of course thrilled to be there representing the administration and of course rooting for team USA. As the president said himself, “This team epitomizes what it means to be champions,” and we are all rooting for them here at the White House.

(07:54)
I know you guys were probably waiting for a Tuberville topper, but I don’t have one for you today. Amer, hi. Good to see you.

Amer (08:02):

Good to see you too. Could you walk us through what efforts have been made over the last 24 hours or so by the US government to contact the North Korean government about Private King? And has the US been able to ascertain where he’s being held and his condition, and is there any further understanding about his motivations to flee or his state of mind at that moment?

Karine Jean-Pierre (08:29):

So all good questions, Amer. I have a couple of things at the top just to share so that folks are all tracking. As you know, yesterday, the Department of Defense notified the next of kin, and so as you mentioned, identified the individual as a US Army Private, Travis King. The White House Department of Defense, the State Department and the UN are all continuing to work together on this matter to ascertain the information, the questions that you just asked me about his wellbeing and the whereabouts of Private King. We are still gathering all the facts. It is still very early on. I believe the secretary himself of the Department of Defense said yesterday it might take us a little bit of time to ascertain all of that information, but again, we’re gathering all the facts. But I want to be very clear that the administration has and will continue to actively work to ensure his safety and the return of Private King to us and to his family, obviously.

(09:27)
So that includes what we’re doing is outreach to the administration of Sweden and also to South Korea as well on this matter. The Department of Defense, as I mentioned yesterday, has been engaged and having communications with its counterparts, the KPA, on the wellbeing of Private King. Again, we’re working to ascertain all the facts, all the information that we can, and as soon as we have more to share, we certainly will. But our primary goal is to make sure that we ascertain his wellbeing, get a sense of how he’s doing, but also clearly we are committed to bringing him home

Amer (10:03):

Fair to assume Sweden hasn’t had any luck thus far with getting any answers from the North Koreans?

Karine Jean-Pierre (10:11):

Don’t have anything to share on our conversation specifically on Private King as it relates to where he is and his wellbeing. But I can tell you that we have been engaged since yesterday. I think I mentioned this at the podium that we’ve been engaged with Sweden and also South Korea.

Amer (10:24):

Could I just ask one more on the Competition Council thing? Generally with the council and some of these guidelines that have been rolled out today, Republican lawmakers in some business group have rolled this criticism that these efforts will lead to greater regulatory costs that leave the economy worse off. How do you ensure that any new regulatory burdens don’t undermine the savings you’re trying to generate from consumers?

Karine Jean-Pierre (10:56):

Look, so we are very confident in the actions that we announced today, and I also mentioned the other actions that we announced about these hidden junk fees, right? And also the hearing aids. I mean, this is something the competition council has been very zeroed in on, and so we are confident that this will lead to the outcome that we certainly are trying to provide for the American people. As I mentioned, competition is a key pillar of the Bidenomics and it is part of the president’s agenda. We believe it’s going to lower costs for American families in targeted areas. When you think about those surprise medical bills, I talked about the hearing aids, and so that’s our focus.

(11:34)
And I said this at the top and I’ll say it again. When it comes to capitalism without competition, then it isn’t capitalism. We’re talking about exploitation, and that’s what the president is trying to deal with when you think about these big corporations that are gouging. They’re gouging Americans. So the president’s going to continue to do the work. The way that we see this as it comes to the president’s competition agenda, we’re talking about supporting pro-small business, pro-entrepreneur, pro-worker, and pro-consumer, and that is we believe Bidenomics in action. And so we’re confident in that.

Speaker 1 (12:11):

You mentioned Sweden and South Korea, but just to be clear, has the administration reached out to China at all for their help in this case?

Karine Jean-Pierre (12:16):

I don’t have any engagement with China to read out to you at this time, but I can tell you for certain that South Korea and Sweden, we have engaged with them.

Speaker 1 (12:27):

And on another issue, Texas has been installing these buoys along with razor wire on the Rio Grande near Eagle Pass. Mexico is now requesting that Texas remove these barriers. They say the state is violating international treaties, and Mexico actually says they first raised this with the administration three weeks ago. So do you agree with Mexico that Texas is violating these international treaties, and if so, how do you plan to respond?

Karine Jean-Pierre (12:50):

I saw these reports and I think one of the things, and I’ve been very clear about this, that this governor has done over and over again

Karine Jean-Pierre (13:00):

…has treated this situation that we’re seeing at the border in an inhumane way. It is atrocious, the actions that he decides to take. He takes this, instead of dealing with this issue in a way that we can get to a resolution or working together, he turns it into a political stunt. And that’s what we have seen. I can’t speak to conversations three weeks ago with the Mexican government, I don’t have any information to share, if that came up in a conversation. But this is not surprising, this is not surprising. Just yesterday I was asked about abandoning children, migrant children, not offering them water. This is what we see over and over and over again from this Texas governor, from Governor Abbott. All we’re asking for as a country, and what we should hold near and dear, is the basic human decency, basic human decency, and we are just not seeing this from this governor.

Speaker 1 (13:57):

It’s clear you disagree with the governor on this, but what comes next here? Does the administration believe that these barriers, these buoys need to be removed? And what can you do to force that if so?

Karine Jean-Pierre (14:07):

So look, this is, as it relates to any legal action, that’s something that Department of Justice is going to certainly look into or has to deal with, as it relates to the indecent inhumane way that migrants… The actions that are being taken against them. I can continue to condemn them here, and we’ve done that in this most strongest terms, and so I’ll just leave it from there at the moment.

Speaker 1 (14:35):

Just to clarify, has the administration discussed this with the Mexican government?

Karine Jean-Pierre (14:38):

I don’t have any information on a conversation that happened a couple of weeks ago with the Mexican government, I can’t confirm that, or currently, I can’t confirm this coming up, I would have to certainly refer to you the Mexican government. What I can say is what I know and how this governor has treated migrants. Instead of dealing with the situation in a way that we can actually have results, he’s used this in a political stunt and that’s shameful and we’re going to continue to condemn that, we’re going to continue to call that out.

Speaker 1 (15:04):

Okay.

Speaker 2 (15:05):

We saw the Tom Friedman column based on a meeting with the president, is this true that the president is now deeply worried for the stability and future of Israel?

Karine Jean-Pierre (15:13):

So look, I think the column, Tom has a quote, directly quoted the president, and so I will let the president’s quote stand on its own. The president has, as you know, had productive meetings with the president of Israel, President Herzog, and also the Prime Minister, he had a phone call, as you all know, with Prime Minister Netanyahu, and the president has been very clear. His relationship with Israel goes back to his early days in the government, it is strong, it is deep, and it is a special relationship and certainly we are committed, we are committed to Israel’s security. And so we’re going to continue that commitment, not just as president, but as a commitment that we’ve had as the US, as we continue deepening that relationship with Israel. But I will let his comments in the article stand for itself.

Speaker 2 (16:11):

And further, does he want Prime Minister Netanyahu to abandon the judicial overhaul?

Karine Jean-Pierre (16:13):

We’ve been also very clear about that. That conversation about the judicial reform, the president has had direct communications with the prime minister on that. We share that in the readout that we shared with all of you, a day or two ago. That conversation certainly came up with the president. As we know, the president of Israel has played a mediator role in those conversations. The president, we’ve said, when it comes to our relationship with Israel, the US relationship with Israel, at the core is democratic values, and that’s what we believe. And any changes, any major changes, certainly needs, and it says it in this article, you need a broad consensus to make any changes. And so, that says it in the article, the president has been very clear, I’ve been very clear, we’ve all been very clear, as it relates to the judicial reform.

Speaker 3 (17:04):

Thanks Karine. You said moments ago that the US government is actively working to ensure Private King’s safety and his return to his family here in the US, but by all accounts, Private King ran across the border, so what if he doesn’t want to come back home?

Karine Jean-Pierre (17:19):

So look, I’m not going to get into hypotheticals on that. Right now, we are very much at the beginning of this investigation. We’re looking into it. We said it was done willfully, clearly, we’ve been very upfront about that. The Department of Defense said that yesterday during their press conference. I’m just not going to get into hypotheticals from here. Our commitment is to do everything that we can to actively work to ensure his safety and that we return him home to his family.

Speaker 3 (17:49):

Will the US accept if he has freely chosen to defect North Korea?

Karine Jean-Pierre (17:53):

I just can’t get into hypotheticals from here. I get the question, I just can’t get to hypotheticals from here.

Speaker 3 (17:58):

And then on another topic, a new Monmouth poll shows that Americans still disapprove of the president’s handling of inflation, they are by and large split on his handling of jobs and unemployment. So a few weeks into this new Bidenomics push, how do you rate how you guys are doing?

Karine Jean-Pierre (18:15):

So look, the polls don’t tell the whole story, they don’t tell the full story, and we understand that. The data shows the combination of unemployment and inflation is at near historic lows. That’s what we have seen. Consumer confidence is increasing, and also wages are rising, that’s what certainly the data is showing. And when you think about our economic recovery, it’s stronger, and inflation is currently lower than any other leading world economic countries, when you think about the G7. So those are the facts. We’re going to continue to have those conversations with the American public, as you know, the president’s going to go to Philly tomorrow, talk about his Investing In America plan. We’ve seen the cabinet secretaries go across the country, crisscross the country, having those conversations. But as we believe it, the polls don’t tell the entire story, and so we’re going to continue to have the conversation. We’re going to continue to have a conversation with the American people.

Speaker 3 (19:10):

How long do you think it’s going to take for the public to start [inaudible 00:19:12]-

Karine Jean-Pierre (19:12):

I don’t have a timeline for you, but we know, just looking at the midterms, the results of the midterms, Americans want us to continue to work and build on the historic actions that we have taken. They want to see us continue to work, the president continue to work on lowering costs, that is what matters to them, focusing on the economy. We’re going to hear from the president very shortly about his competition council and what they have been able to accomplish on dealing with hidden junk fees. All of those things are important, and we’ve seen very good stories from some of you, speaking about the technical apparatus of it, how this is going to work, and how this is going to benefit the American people. So, look, we’re going to continue to talk, we’re going to continue to share our message, we’re going to continue to be out there, and you’re going to see that from the president in about an hour or so from now. [inaudible 00:20:04].

Speaker 4 (20:04):

Any expectation that at the congressional picnic tonight, your two most frequently mentioned of late Republicans, Senator Tuberville or Marjorie Taylor Green would be in attendance? And has the president made any effort to encourage them, especially Tuberville, to come forward, even a casual relationship building moment over the impasse you have with the military policy?

Karine Jean-Pierre (20:27):

So, I don’t have a list of who is attending, as you know, there are a lot of members. At least in the house, and certainly about 100 senators on the other side. So don’t have a list of who is attending, clearly this is an opportunity for both sides to come to the White House and enjoy the time here on the South Lawn, enjoy a picnic with their family, and this is something that congressional members, both sides of the chamber, enjoy. And it’s always been a wonderful time here on the South Lawn. Don’t have anything more to share.

(20:57)
Look, I get the question, and I know this is coming from the press conference from last week in Helsinki and the President’s comments, but we also have to be very clear that what Senator Tuberville is doing is unprecedented. It is holding these nominations as we look at making sure that our military is prepared, making sure our military families are well taken care of. That is not something that normally occurs. This is a process that’s done in a bipartisan way. And so, we’re going to continue to call that out. It is again, unprecedented, this is not how we should be moving forward as we think about our military force, as we think about the families of these military members, and it is important to lay that out.

(21:49)
What he is doing is dangerous and it is shameful. And so, we can’t allow that. I don’t have a conversation to announce or to share, with the senator. Obviously we have an Office of Leg. Affairs here, who’s in constant communication with members in Congress, and that always continues, and they talk about a variety of issues. But the president should not have to call the senator to tell him to stop putting our military readiness in harm’s way. To not put military families without knowing where they’re going to go next, or making sure that they’re secure. And so, that is not something that the president needs to tell Senator Tuberville. And we’ve also, yesterday I read a bunch of quotes from a CNN article from his own constituents, who either have family in the military or veterans themselves, who say that the senator may not understand exactly what’s happening here, and what he is doing is dangerous. Okay.

Speaker 5 (22:52):

Wesleyan University has ended the practice of legacy admissions, President Biden, as you know, has criticized the practice and he’s called on the education department to look into it. Can you say anything about where that process stands and whether the president supports widespread elimination of the practice?

Karine Jean-Pierre (23:07):

So look, I have not seen that story, so as it relates to where we are with any parts of the plan or the process, I would have to refer you to the Department of Education. This is something that I just haven’t had an opportunity to talk with folks here about, so I don’t have anything further to share on that piece.

Speaker 5 (23:23):

Just on another issue, two senators, one Republican, one Democrat, are preparing to introduce legislation that would ban federal executive branch employees and lawmakers from owning stocks in individual companies, it has become an issue and a potential conflict of interest. Does the president support that concept broadly, that members of the administration and lawmakers shouldn’t own individual stocks?

Karine Jean-Pierre (23:42):

So, look, I think we’ve spoken to this before, as you know, you know the president, you’ve seen where he stands on that himself, personally, when it comes to stocks, and him of course not owning stocks and where he is. And we’ve been very clear about ethics here, we’ve had a very stringent process as it relates to ethics, and as it relates to staff here. So that hasn’t changed, we’ve kind of laid that out, and been very clear on that. As it relates to this bill, I haven’t seen the bill, I haven’t talked to Office of Leg. Affairs on it, so I don’t want to comment, get ahead of that. Okay.

Nancy (24:19):

Thanks Karine. On Tuberville, he spoke to the defense secretary yesterday, he said afterwards it was a good call, but then nothing has changed. What is the next step? Are they planning to speak again? Does anyone have a plan to speak to him again?

Karine Jean-Pierre (24:34):

Look, the next step, that’s up to the senator. This is something that he’s doing. He’s holding these nominees. He’s holding America’s military readiness. That’s what he’s doing, as well as service members and their families. And he’s holding them hostage. It is divisive, it is a political stunt, it undermines our national security. This is something for the senator to speak to, an answer to. Why is he doing this? And so, I don’t have any calls to read out, clearly this is not the first time that the secretary has either reached out or spoken to him. This is something clearly that the secretary, as the Department of Defense, these are the people that he is in charge of. And so, it is just shameful that he continues to do this. And we have been very clear, we called on Republicans in the Senate to speak up, to speak out, and not let this process, which should be a bipartisan process, be hijacked by one person.

Nancy (25:34):

On that front, does the White House believe that Republican leaders in the Senate have any particular responsibility or any specific leverage to get him to change his mind?

Karine Jean-Pierre (25:44):

Look, we think that they can, we think that they can speak up and speak out, we think these Republican senators in Congress, that it’s important to do this. That they actually speak to the senator and ask him, what is going on? Why are you doing this? This is

Karine Jean-Pierre (26:00):

This is not how we should move forward, and as it relates to our national security, our military force, our military families. It is on them as well to speak up.

Nancy (26:16):

But, obviously, lots of people have spoken to him, and he hasn’t changed his mind. Do you believe there’s anything else that Republican leaders or rank and file in the Senate can do to try to influence his position?

Karine Jean-Pierre (26:29):

I understand the question, Nancy, but it’s a shame that we have to ask this question: “What else can be done to get this one senator, who’s holding our military readiness hostage, our military family’s hostage, what else can we do to change their mind?” That shouldn’t even be a question.

(26:46)
This should be done in a bipartisan way. We should not be holding our military force hostage. And that’s why almost every press conference this week I’ve called this out. We’ve called out Senator Tuberville because we’re trying to send a message to him to say, “Hey, this is not the way we should be moving forward. This is unprecedented.”

(27:06)
We even had, at the podium yesterday, as I just mentioned, we even had quotes from people. We’re talking about his constituents, veterans in his own state. Not only that, military families in his own state saying this is not okay, that he may not fully understand what is going on here.

(27:23)
And so it’s so disrespectful to the sacrifices that our military force is making, the sacrifices that our military families are making. This cannot continue. And so this is something that he has to deal with.

Nancy (27:40):

Are there any calls or conversations that you can read out between the White House and Republican leadership about this?

Karine Jean-Pierre (27:45):

I don’t have any calls to read out at this time.

(27:47)
Go ahead.

Speaker 6 (27:49):

On US investment in China: There’s an executive order that’s been in the works. A question on the timeline. Are you confident that we’ll see that EO by say, the end of August?

Karine Jean-Pierre (27:59):

So, don’t have anything new on the EO to preview or timeline to preview. It’s a complicated process, as I’m sure you understand, and so we want to make sure that we get this right. And it takes some time.

(28:09)
What I can say is that making progress in formulating an approach to address outbound investment in sensitive technology, particularly for transactions in critical sectors that could undermine America’s national security. So we’re trying to formulate that approach. But it’s a complicated process. We want to get it right. And once we have more to share, we certainly will share that.

(28:29)
Go ahead.

Speaker 7 (28:30):

So, yesterday, Illinois moved to become the first state in the nation to eliminate cash bail. And I wanted to ask you about this specifically because during the 2020 campaign, I know that then-candidate Joe Biden had described cash bail as a “modern day debtor’s prison.” And so, I wondered if you could give us an update, I know he had promised to eliminate it, on where efforts stand at a nationwide level.

Karine Jean-Pierre (28:51):

That’s a good question. Don’t have anything specifically on what our efforts are on cash bail. I would have to get back to you specifically on the plan, but I don’t have anything. The president’s, I should say the president’s stance has not changed.

Speaker 7 (29:03):

Okay. Can I also ask, in this debate in the state of Illinois, there were prosecutors, law enforcement who essentially said that this would lead to a more dangerous climate in the state. I wondered if you all have a message to law enforcement who do have concerns that eliminating cash bail could lead to more danger.

Karine Jean-Pierre (29:22):

So, look, one of the things that the president has always been very clear about as we’re talking about the economy, as we’re talking about building an economy that doesn’t leave anybody behind, that has equity at the center of it, this is part of that, making sure that we treat people fairly.

(29:39)
And so, certainly that is part of that. And we think about racial injustices, inequality. This certainly plays into that. I don’t have anything new to share on that particular issue as it relates to cash bail. But certainly, the president’s stance stands. I just don’t have anything new to share on that at this time.

(29:58)
Go ahead.

Speaker 8 (29:59):

Is everyone invited to the congressional picnic? Were all members of Congress invited?

Karine Jean-Pierre (30:04):

I believe so. I think that’s usually the way it works, that all members of Congress are indeed invited. I don’t have a list in front of me. But I believe it is a congressional picnic. And I believe all sides are invited. We’re not picking who gets to come and who doesn’t get to come.

Speaker 8 (30:21):

Right. But if somebody’s not there, we can interpret that they declined the invitation rather than that they weren’t invited.

Karine Jean-Pierre (30:29):

I believe so. I want to be very mindful and careful, but I believe so, that is indeed the case.

Speaker 8 (30:34):

And then I was also curious if the president has ever spoken with Senator Tuberville. Do they have any relationship whatsoever?

Karine Jean-Pierre (30:41):

No, it’s a good question. I just don’t have a conversation to read out at this time. The president has multiple conversations with the senators and House members regularly. I just don’t have anything on this particular senator or if there’s been a conversation in the past.

(30:56)
Go ahead, Anita.

Anita (30:57):

Thanks. A quick Russia question. I’m sure you’ve seen that the Ministry of Defense says that they’re going to treat all ships in the Black Sea Port as, quote, “potential carriers of military cargo.” I just wanted to get the White House’s response to this statement, what you intend to do to help Ukraine guard against this, to defend themselves, and what the administration wants to do to exert pressure on Russia to reconsider and rejoin the grain deal. And do you see any alternatives to get these essential goods out of Ukraine?

Karine Jean-Pierre (31:30):

So, a couple of things as far as what we’re doing. So we’re going to continue to support Ukraine’s effort to get Ukrainian grain to the markets that desperately need it. I just talked about a new announcement from the Department of Defense, which also is going to include what part of that actually speaks to the grain initiative.

(31:52)
And so, I spoke to that at the top. But a couple of things is providing financial support and supplies for Ukraine farmers, such as seeds and fertilizer, as well as help with crop storage and processing needs. In fact, the Administrator Powers in Ukraine right now and announced this week that the United States will provide another $250 million for the AGRI Ukraine Initiative to help Ukraine’s farmers produce, store, and export agriculture products and grain to the world.

(32:24)
We have also applauded, let’s not forget the neighboring countries here, such as Romania, for improving overland access for Ukrainian farmers and looking to their goods to market. So, we are going to continue to help Ukraine, not just the short term, but the long term as I announced at the top. It certainly is a priority for this administration but also for the NATO alliance, as we heard from them last week, the partners and our allies, to make sure that Ukraine has everything that it needs to make sure they continue to fight for their freedom and also their democracy.

(33:04)
But as it relates to the grain initiative, we’re certainly going to do everything that we can.

Speaker 9 (33:07):

A follow-up on that, Karine.

Anita (33:08):

[inaudible 00:33:09] shore up their naval capabilities? Because Ukraine has a pretty small Navy, especially compared to Russia.

Karine Jean-Pierre (33:14):

Don’t have anything specifically about the naval piece, but we’ve seen what we’ve been able to do, given security assistance to Ukraine, to make sure they have what they need to defend themselves. And that is something that you’ve seen this commitment for more than 15 months now. You’ve seen this commitment from the NATO alliance. You’ve seen this commitment from our partners and allies. And that’s going to continue. We probably have not seen a stronger commitment than we saw last week. And so that’s going to continue. Just announced, again, another initiative of how we’re going to continue to provide that type of assistance.

(33:51)
Go ahead.

Lalit (33:52):

Thank you. A month after the state visit by the Prime Minister Modi from India, where did the relationship goes from here in terms of India-US relations?

Karine Jean-Pierre (34:02):

So, as you know, Lalit, we thought the visit last month was extremely successful and important. The relationship with India is stronger than ever. And, as you know, we announced a range of key deliverables, which some of them are being implemented. And so, we’ve remained very optimistic as it relates to our long-term future and relationship with India. And so, we believe that’s going to continue.

Lalit (34:29):

And about a year ago, India, US, Israel, and UAE had announced the permission of I2U2. Was this an issue that the two discussed yesterday [inaudible 00:34:39] of Israel? And how much progress has been made on that?

Karine Jean-Pierre (34:42):

So I don’t have an additional meetings highlight to share with you out of the readout that we shared with all of you. So don’t have anything to share on the I2U2. I know that was, as you said, initiative that we started a year ago. It was a vision to certainly, a shared vision of security and prosperous Middle East region, keep them connected, as it’s called, the I2U2, with India and the world.

(35:09)
So we thought it was really important, as we announced it, as you mentioned a year ago. I2U2 is already deepening those partnerships among four countries, those four countries and beyond, and evidenced by existing projects and initiative. There’s still a strong future with I2U2. And so, we’re really excited about the prospects of that future. And so, just don’t have anything more to share beyond that.

Lalit (35:30):

Can I ask a follow-up, please?

Karine Jean-Pierre (35:32):

Go ahead. No, go ahead.

Speaker 10 (35:33):

Thank you, Karine. Admiral Kirby, when he was up on the podium the other day, he seemed to rule out US participating or even really backing a convoy system to get grain in and out of Ukraine because of the dangers. But the Ukrainians are really pushing for that. In fact, a senior Ukrainian official told us, AFP, today that they’re negotiating right now with regional countries in the Black Sea, and what they want to see in the UN, some kind of UN mandate for this. Is the US into exploring any of that, including the UN part?

Karine Jean-Pierre (36:05):

The admiral answered this question. I don’t have anything else to share beyond what he laid out on that particular question. And we get it. We hear what the Ukrainians are asking for. Just don’t have anything else to share.

(36:15)
I just laid out three important pillars, if you will, of how we’re assisting right now with this grain initiative no longer, certainly, existing, how we’re going to help Ukrainian farmers. I just talked about what the Administrator Power said this week about the 250 million for the Ukrainian initiative to get Ukraine farmers produce and store and export agriculture products and grain to the world.

(36:40)
So that is really important. So we’re taking steps to help in ways that we can. We’ve been very detailed about those steps that we’re taking. As far as it relates to your question, I just don’t have anything beyond what the admiral shared a day or two ago.

(36:54)
Go ahead.

Speaker 11 (36:54):

Thanks, Karine. Several Democratic senators wrote a letter to student loan service providers this week saying they’re concerned about whether they’re going to be able to handle the restart payments this fall. And they’re citing what they say is a heavy workload and the weakened ability of these providers to deal with all of this because of layoffs and the big transfer of borrowers during the pause over the last three years.

(37:14)
Does the administration share those concerns? And has the White House spoken to those senators about what the federal government might be able to do to alleviate some of these problems?

Karine Jean-Pierre (37:23):

So one of the things I can say is as the pause is going to be lifted, the Department of Education has been in touch with certain administrators to see what we can do to be helpful. Don’t have any calls to read out with the two senators that you list out. But it is something that the Department of Education is aware of and wants to make sure that we do this in a smart and effective way. I don’t have any details. I would have to refer you to Department of Education, as certainly they’re running this process.

Speaker 11 (37:59):

And when the student loan process was all announced a couple weeks ago, there was that 12 month on-ramp transition, which was certainly framed as a way to help borrowers as they restarted their payments, if they missed a payment, that they wouldn’t default on their loans. But could this end up helping the loan providers if they’re dealing with the flood on their end and helping them more so than the borrowers?

Karine Jean-Pierre (38:21):

Well, it was designed to help the borrowers. That was the whole idea of announcing the 12-month ramp. That’s what it’s designed to do. That’s what we want to make sure that we understand, that it’s going to take folks a little bit more time, and they do need a little bit of that breathing room. And so, we believe that it is going to be beneficial to the borrowers.

(38:40)
We believe that it’s an option that is certainly needed for many borrowers. So that’s how we moved it forward. That’s how we’re looking at it. And so, we believe, again, it’s going to be something that the borrowers will benefit from as we’re getting them back into

Karine Jean-Pierre (39:00):

… into this loan process.

(39:03)
Go ahead.

Speaker 13 (39:03):

Thanks, Karine. On the Competition Council coming in later, let’s take a look at the rental fees part of this. You’re offering transparency on that, as you have with a number of programs, but Americans have been waiting more than a year and a half for actual prices and fees to come down. So when will the prices and fees come down?

Karine Jean-Pierre (39:22):

Look, I think when you look at what we’ve been able to do, the actions that we have taken, I talked about the hearing aides, I’ve talked about what we’ve seen with the Inflation Reduction Act, with insulin capped at $35. We’ve seen how we’re preventing as many as 1 million surprise medical bills every month. Americans are saving $5 billion a year on overdraft fees and consumers are better able to comparison shop to get the best deal on apartments and event tickets. And that’s something that we’re seeing today, when we put the junk fees, making sure that’s upfront, and so consumers are able to look at what the junk fees are and make decisions that is good for them. And so,

(40:04)
That is incredibly important. So we have seen results. We have seen real results from the actions that the president has taken to lower costs for the American people, and this is something that the president says he’s going to try and figure out how to do that. And so, we’re going to hear from him again and he’s going to lay out the Competition Council and these announcements today, as I did at the beginning.

(40:22)
So look, we understand housing affordability is a challenge for families. This is why we make announcements like these. This is why we make sure that we take action in this administration. When you think about the Housing Supply Action Plan, and that is going to help housing supply shortfall that we have seen recently. So it’s really important that we do that.

(40:47)
The good news is that we’re starting to see a housing market cool, so that is something that we’re seeing. But we believe that Bidenomics is working with these actions that we took today. Of course, there’s always more work to be done.

Speaker 13 (41:00):

Why do this now? Why not in the first year of the presidency? Why now? So it rolls out next year as voters begin to vote for the presidential election?

Karine Jean-Pierre (41:11):

Let’s talk about the first year of this administration. The first year of administration, we’re dealing with an economy that was turned upside down because of COVID, because we didn’t have a comprehensive plan to deal with making sure people got shots in arms, because, let’s not forget, businesses were closed, schools were closed. And what did this president do? He made sure that the American Rescue Plan, as well Democrats in Congress got passed. And got that out of the way and made sure that the economy got back on its feet.

(41:38)
We passed historical pieces of legislation. I just talked about the insulin being capped at 35 bucks for seniors. That’s something that we were able to pass last year in the Inflation Reduction Act and a lower cost for energy, going to continue to lower costs on healthcare. These are actions that the president did. This is what we talk about, Bidenomics, this is it. This is what we were able to do in the first two years.

(42:00)
And so, the president has always said, even today he’ll probably say, he’s going to always continue to look for ways to lower costs. What other ways that we can do to lower costs for the American people, that’s what you’re going to hear from him today. Another way to lower costs or give the American people an opportunity to make decisions on how to lower costs for their household.

(42:23)
That’s the hidden junk fees that we see. That’s the role of the Competition Council. So the president has taken actions over and over again to deal with what Americans really care about, the economy, and he wants to continue to do that, continue to lower costs.

(42:39)
Go ahead, Todd.

Todd (42:40):

Thanks. Back on the Texas border barrier, is the state’s installation of razor wire illegal under international law or any other law?

Karine Jean-Pierre (42:50):

So look, I can’t speak to the legal piece of the wires. That is not something I can speak to. That’s something that DOJ can speak to more clearly. What I can say is that we’re going to continue to condemn the actions, these types of actions that governor takes when it comes to treating these migrants in an inhumane way. That is something that we will be very clear about. As far as the legal piece of that, I would refer you to Department of Justice.

Todd (43:19):

What moves, what kind of efforts have been made to address concerns about that razor wire, concerns raised by migrant advocates, by Mexico, by Border Patrol agents? Has anything been done to remove it?

Karine Jean-Pierre (43:35):

So I would refer you to Department of Justice and I would also refer you to the Department of Homeland Security to see exactly what is being done with this issue. Don’t have anything to share with you here. But again, we are going to continue to condemn these types of actions that we see from this governor. It is a political stunt. It is inhumane. It is atrocious.

(43:57)
When we think about even the news that we heard yesterday about not providing water to migrant children, this is an action that we see from this governor over and over again, and we’re certainly going to call that out. As any legal actions, that is something for the Department of Justice to speak to.

Todd (44:11):

One last quick question.

Karine Jean-Pierre (44:12):

Yeah.

Todd (44:12):

President López Obrador earlier this week said that he is urging Hispanic Americans to vote against Governor Abbott and any Republican who fails to denounce this border tactic by Texas. Is the administration okay with that kind of involvement in domestic politics?

Karine Jean-Pierre (44:35):

That is not something I’m going to speak to. That is something for the President of Mexico to speak to. I’m just not going to get involved in elections.

(44:43)
Sure. Go ahead, Brian.

Brian (44:44):

Just to follow up on that, are you saying that, because in the past when this has happened on the border in several states, Homeland Security and Border Patrol have said, “Listen, the purview of the international borders is the federal government, not the states,” so are you saying that we’ve ceded the Border Patrol?

Karine Jean-Pierre (45:03):

That’s not what I said. I said you have to talk to the Department of Homeland Security and the Department of Justice.

Brian (45:07):

This administration isn’t going to cede international control of its boundaries?

Karine Jean-Pierre (45:11):

I mean, absolutely not. Absolutely not. I’m just saying that that is something, as far as actions, that’s something for the Department of Homeland Security to speak to.

Brian (45:18):

Thanks.

Karine Jean-Pierre (45:20):

Go ahead, in the back.

Speaker 14 (45:21):

Thanks, Karine. Cardinal Zuppi and president Biden met last night. I saw the readouts. After their meeting, does the president believe the Vatican can help end the war in Ukraine?

Karine Jean-Pierre (45:31):

So just a couple of things on that. You saw the readout, as you just mentioned, of the president’s meeting with the Cardinal. We put that out last night.

(45:39)
Look, just a couple of things that I know the president would want me to share here is that he has shared his wishes for Pope Francis’s continued ministry and global leadership and welcomed the recent nomination of a U.S. archbishop as cardinal. They also discussed the Holy See’s efforts providing humanitarian aid to address the widespread suffering caused by Russia’s continuing aggression in Ukraine, as well as the Vatican’s advocacy for the return of forcible reported Ukrainian children.

(46:06)
What Russia has done, kidnapping thousands of Ukrainian children from their families and transferring them to other parts of Ukraine, or deporting them to Russia is obviously horrifying. So we certainly applaud the Vatican’s advocacy for the return of these children. We think it’s important advocacy. And so, that is something that the president discussed with the Cardinal yesterday.

Speaker 14 (46:28):

And can you just tell me real quickly, did the use of cluster bombs come up? The Church, the Pope against those, obviously. Did that come up in their conversation?

Karine Jean-Pierre (46:35):

I don’t have anything beyond the readout from last night.

(46:37)
Go ahead, Courtney.

Courtney (46:38):

Thank you. When will the president sign the Taiwan trade deal that the Senate passed last night?

Karine Jean-Pierre (46:45):

I don’t have a timeline for you on that at this time.

Courtney (46:48):

And I also wanted to ask about the defense bill. Does the president want your policy on troops and abortions to be included in the bill? For example, would he want the bill to codify the policy or not touch it at all?

Karine Jean-Pierre (46:59):

What I can say is the President wants a piece of legislation that is bipartisan, as we’ve done historically in the past. That’s what the president wants to see, a bipartisan piece of legislation.

Speaker 15 (47:08):

Karine, one on Israel?

Karine Jean-Pierre (47:08):

Last question, because I really got to go.

Speaker 16 (47:14):

Thank you, Karine. At the top, in the statement, you talked about a new weapon system that the U.S. is providing to Ukraine. What’s the timetable for getting that weapon system to the Ukraine military?

Karine Jean-Pierre (47:25):

So any timetable as it relates to any weapon system, I would have to refer you to the Pentagon.

Speaker 16 (47:31):

Can I ask you another question? On the other side of Pennsylvania Avenue today, there is a hearing, House Oversight Committee, chaired by James Comer. And he has before the committee these two individuals who work for the IRS. They’ve invoked whistleblower status and they’ve alleged that there’s been preferential treatment that has been given to Hunter Biden. Is there any reason why those allegations should not be believed, from your point of view?

Karine Jean-Pierre (47:58):

So, look, my colleague at the White House Counsel has addressed this, so I certainly will refer you to him.

(48:05)
But a couple of things I do want to say. The president respects the rule of law. He respects the independence of the Department of Justice as it relates to their conduct and investigation. That’s something that we say over and over from here, and you’ve heard from the president specifically on this case. Let’s not forget, this has been led by a Trump appointed U.S. attorney. Let’s not forget that. And the president has said, we have said that he has not been involved. And so, look, what I can say is just taking a step back and looking at what the president is even doing today, he is going to focus on how we can continue to do the work of the American people, how we can continue to lower cost. He’s taking on big corporations who are price gouging, price gouging the American people. That’s going to be his focus. That’s what he’s going to continue to focus on.

(48:54)
Let’s not forget in the midterms, that was the focus that Republicans said that they wanted to do. They wanted to run a midterm, or their message during the midterm is how do we lower costs for the American people. It doesn’t seem like that’s their focus right now. Their focus is continuing to do political stunts, that’s what they want to do, but that’s not what the president is focusing on. You’re going to hear from him in a few minutes about that.

(49:16)
Thanks everybody.

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